2449. Chapter 2449
Chapter 2449
The three major powers have put forward their own terms for reconciliation, and finally it was North Korea's Kim Sang-heon's turn to speak. Although North Korea is the weakest in national power, it actually has its own unique advantages from a certain perspective, that is, it is the enemy among the four countries.
least.
The most powerful Ming Dynasty is the former suzerain state of North Korea. Although it has offended Ming Dynasty because it switched to Haihan's sect, with the military protection provided by Haihan, Ming Dynasty is unable to do anything to North Korea. The real enemy that threatens North Korea's security is actually
There is only the Manchu and Qing family.
Shang Kexi's previous reconciliation request to North Korea was a big deal. Of course Kim Sang-hyun would not agree. Not only that, he also had to adopt a tougher attitude to prevent the other three countries from looking down on North Korea.
"I require the Qing Dynasty to compensate for the war losses of two million taels of silver caused by the invasion of our country. In addition, all nationals kidnapped during the war must be released and allowed to return to North Korea as soon as possible." Kim Sangxian said to Shang Kexi with a cold face: "If
If your country can meet these two conditions, then our country will consider an armistice and peace negotiation."
The conditions offered by Jin Shangxian were obviously tit for tat with Shang Kexi and refused to give in. But it was not difficult for a discerning person to make a judgment. Neither the Manchus nor the North Koreans were likely to meet the conditions proposed by the other party. Shang Kexi just sneered repeatedly.
But he did not break the rules set by Tao Donglai and immediately refute Kim Sang-heon.
The conditions of the four families have been put forward. In summary, only the reconciliation conditions proposed by Haihan are more realistic. They only require the Manchu and Qing Dynasties to retreat a hundred miles of defense and leave a buffer zone where troops cannot be stationed. As for other exchanges of prisoners of war, open
Conditions such as commerce and trade are just trivial matters. But Haihan also has a prerequisite for the four countries to sign a peace agreement. This is the real difficulty.
Judging from the current situation, there are huge differences in the conditions proposed by other parties, and it may be difficult to reach an agreement in a short period of time. And the actual situation is exactly the same. After Kim Sang-heon's speech, all parties
Once again, they fell into endless disputes. By the end of the afternoon meeting, the parties still could not reach a consensus on settlement terms.
"It's getting late. I think today's discussion will end here. Everyone, go back to camp and have a good rest. We will continue tomorrow." Tao Donglai saw that no results would be released today, so he decisively stopped the meeting.
The representatives of the other three parties had been arguing here for a day, and they were already dry and dizzy. However, the meeting was not over yet, so they could only force themselves up to continue arguing. At this time, Tao Dong came to announce a break, which happened to give them a chance to
I was relieved that no one objected, and all parties finally reached an agreement for the first time at the end of the day.
"This negotiation is really not easy! I heard them arguing for a whole day, but there was no outcome." Qian Tiandun was not satisfied with the negotiation process on the first day. So far, all parties have just insisted on their own opinions.
There is no way to persuade the opponent to accept the conditions he proposed.
Tao Donglai said: "My views are a little different from yours."
"Oh? What should I say?"
Tao Donglai explained: "Countries have different interests and demands, and it is normal to have differences on the terms of peace talks, but it is a good thing that they are willing to sit down and talk now. The more fierce the quarrel, the more it shows that they are serious about this matter.
Heart. Negotiation is a process of seeking compromise, so we don’t have to rush.”
Wang Tom said: "We have this place in Jinzhou. We can advance, attack, retreat or defend. There is really no need to worry. Although North Korea is weak, under our protection, the Manchu Qing Dynasty will probably not attack it easily again. If we finally negotiate
However, the real danger is actually only the Ming Dynasty. They have no effective means to deal with the Qing offensive, and they are unwilling to put down their face and ask for our support. They will not be able to survive for a few years."
Tao Donglai said: "I think Yang Sichang may make concessions in the end. He was originally a faction that advocated peace in the Ming Dynasty, and he must have high expectations for this meeting. Before coming to Jinzhou this time, he may have already
I have issued a military order to Chongzhen and will use this opportunity to win peace for the Ming Dynasty. If we can't negotiate a decent result, I think it will be difficult for him to do business after he returns."
Qian Tiandun said: "There is some truth in saying this, but Ming Dynasty actually has no bargaining capital. I'm afraid Yang Sichang's concessions are not easy to grasp."
The Ming Dynasty has always been defeated by the Manchu Qing in the past few years. This will indeed put Yang Sichang in a very passive position in negotiations. Even if he wants to negotiate peace, if the conditions are too outrageous, it may still be difficult to operate. After all, the Ming Dynasty is not
His words, Yang Sichang's, still hold the upper hand inside and outside the imperial court. If he makes too many concessions, he will inevitably be liquidated in the future.
The three of them had dinner together and returned to the office. They were about to continue studying the negotiation strategy when a subordinate came to report that it was Kim Sang-hyun who requested to meet with Tao Dong-rae.
"It seems that he is here to ask for instructions on the next strategy." Tao Donglai joked: "Invite him in."
Tao Donglai's prediction was indeed good. After Kim Sangxian sat down, he took the initiative to inform the three of them of his intention. He hoped that Haihan could clearly indicate the direction of the next negotiation.
"Master Tao, General Qian, General Wang, no matter what your country's resolution is, our country will fully cooperate with it." Kim Sang-hyun made North Korea's attitude very clear to them.
"Our two countries have always advanced and retreated together, and the next strategy should also be discussed and formulated together. If Mr. Kim has any thoughts on today's negotiations, you might as well tell us directly and let's discuss it together." Tao Donglai was very polite to Kim Sang-hyun and did not
Because the other party is humble, let him go as he pleases.
Jin Shangxian said: "I think that peace talks between the Manchu Qing Dynasty and our two countries are actually not difficult. The conditions proposed by your country are extremely generous. Shang Kexi does not even mean to object. He has obviously recognized these conditions. Although he asked our country
cede territory and pay compensation, but I think this is actually for Ming Dynasty to see, and it is not a condition that must be met. As long as I don’t let go, I believe that the Manchu and Qing Dynasties can’t do anything to our country. The real trouble is actually the Ming Dynasty. As long as we can’t reach an agreement, the Manchu and Qing Dynasties will
Will send troops to attack, and Ming Dynasty is unable to resist, and can only watch the Manchu Qing plundering the population and wealth belonging to Ming Dynasty... One goes and the other goes, it is hard to say how long Ming Dynasty can last. If we can't reach an agreement this time, next time
When we talk again, the conditions proposed by the Manchu Qing will only be more stringent."
Tao Donglai did not expect that Jin Shangxian had such a thorough understanding of the current situation. He nodded slightly and said: "What Mr. Jin said is absolutely true, but if the Ming Dynasty gives in too quickly, I'm afraid the Manchus will see through it. I think that Yang
Although your Excellency intends to negotiate peace, we should insist on it for a few more days. Anyway, in this situation, we are not the ones who are anxious, so we just need to be patient and wait and see what happens."
Jin Shangxian responded: "I understand what Mr. Tao means, so I can sleep well in the next few days."
Kim Sang-hyun has received reassurance from Haihan, so he can naturally sleep well, but Shang Kexi and Yang Sichang may not be able to sleep peacefully. It is not easy for them to take the initiative in such negotiations.
, it is also difficult to convince the opponent to accept the conditions you have offered. Both parties are unwilling to compromise on the first day of negotiation, so they are bound to show a tougher attitude at the negotiation table.
Yang Sichang made up his mind at the beginning and was not in a hurry to express his attitude, but Shang Kexi left no room for it and pressed him step by step, claiming that if the peace talks failed, the war would inevitably restart within the year, and the northern part of the Ming Dynasty would be full of war again.
, when the Ming Dynasty wants to negotiate peace with the Manchu Qing again, it will definitely not be the conditions proposed now.
As the current Minister of War, Yang Sichang is naturally very aware of the gap in military strength between the two countries. If he had the power to fight the Manchus, he would not have to worry about these problems. However, except for the Shanhaiguan direction, the northern border defense of the Ming Dynasty is relatively stable.
It seems that everything can be defeated with a single poke. The Qing army can easily break into the hinterland of the Ming Dynasty and directly threaten the capital. If the Manchus and Qing Dynasties cannot be persuaded to cease the war, they will probably be severely looted by the Qing army every year. In a few more years, the north will
With ten rooms and nine empty, the foundation of Ming Dynasty's rule has been loosened.
Yang Sichang's idea is to stop the war and negotiate peace first, recuperate and accumulate strength, and then send troops to deal with the Qing Dynasty when the civil strife is calmed down and the time is right. However, the truce conditions currently proposed by the Qing Dynasty are really outrageous in Yang Sichang's opinion. The two million taels of silver
War reparations are secondary. If even Shanhaiwei is ceded to the Qing Dynasty, it will really be equivalent to opening the northern border to the Ming Dynasty. At that time, the Qing army can go south through Shanhaiguan to threaten the capital at any time. If he agrees to this
Such conditions for peace talks are equivalent to asking Ming Dynasty to completely abandon border defense.
In fact, it is not impossible for Yang Sichang to strive for a more favorable situation. As long as he puts down his arrogance and cooperates with Haihan, imitating North Korea and letting Haihan troops stationed at the border of the Ming Dynasty, and the three countries work together to deal with it, then the Manchu Qing Dynasty will definitely still be under military pressure.
A certain degree of compromise was made. However, Emperor Chongzhen and the court had always had great doubts about military cooperation with Haihan. If it was necessary to allow the Haihan army to officially enter the Ming Dynasty in exchange for concessions from the Qing Dynasty, such an exchange might not be possible.
Gain domestic recognition.
On the second day of negotiations, the disputes between countries gradually focused on the Ming, Qing, and North Korea. At the end of the day's talks, Haihan quickly reached a preliminary consensus with the Manchu and Qing Dynasties on the terms of reconciliation in the direction of Jinzhou.
Shang Kexi promised that the Qing army would withdraw to a hundred miles north of the Jinzhou Isthmus within two months after the agreement was reached, and would only maintain intermittent activities of small patrols in the military buffer zone. The Haihan prisoners of war currently in custody
, they will all be released through personnel exchange so that they can return to Jinzhou safely.
Tao Donglai, on behalf of the Haihan side, promised that after the agreement was officially signed, the Haihan Army would stop all military operations against the Manchu Qing in the Liaodong area and would also release Qing prisoners in custody. However, if the Qing army attacks North Korea after this
Carrying out military operations with the Ming Dynasty will be regarded as actively breaking the agreement. At that time, Haihan will also take corresponding measures depending on the situation, and does not rule out the possibility of sending troops to attack the Manchu Qing Dynasty.
Of course, the current consensus reached by the two parties is not a formal agreement, it is just an intention. However, Tao Donglai still took the initiative to suggest that Shang Kexi initial the memorandum together, so that if the four-nation peace agreement is reached later, the content of this memorandum will also appear in the official document.
Once the agreement is in place, there is no need to waste time re-negotiating it.
With such a speed of negotiation, it is not an exaggeration to say that they hit it off right away. This is mainly because Haihan made huge concessions compared to the initial conditions, which even far exceeded Shang Kexi's expectations before the negotiations began. It can be said that it took advantage of
It was a big bargain. He almost signed the memorandum with a fear that Haihan would regret it. But Shang Kexi also understood that this did not mean that these agreements would be well implemented. If he could not deal with North Korea and Ming Dynasty, then at present,
All agreements reached with Haihan will also be voided immediately.
If the military generals were in charge of this negotiation, they would not make such big concessions. However, Tao Donglai believed that Haihan's investment and output in Liaodong were not proportional, and the Executive Committee would not make any more concessions in the short term.
With plans to increase investment in the north, reaching a settlement with the Manchus is the most beneficial option for Haihan at this stage.
Kim Sang-hyun had already understood Haihan's attitude before, so he was not surprised that the two sides could reach an agreement so quickly. Now that Haihan has set an example, North Korea will follow suit and negotiate with the Manchu and Qing Dynasties as soon as possible.
reconciliation.
Yang Sichang's feelings were a bit complicated. Haihan's military operations against the Manchu and Qing Dynasties in the Liaodong region did share a lot of pressure for the Ming Dynasty. But if Haihan chooses to be neutral from now on, or even establish diplomatic relations with the Manchu and Qing Dynasties, then all the pressure will be lost.
Return to the Ming Dynasty. But if Haihan does not reconcile with the Manchu and Qing Dynasties, then the peace talks between the Ming Dynasty and the Manchu Qing Dynasty will be almost hopeless. The Ming Dynasty wants to sit back and let Haihan and the Manchu Qing quarrel. After all, it is difficult to do so.
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What Ming could not do, Haihan has achieved. As far as the current progress of the negotiations is concerned, Haihan can already sit back and watch the excitement of these three parties.
After the negotiations continued for two more days, North Korea and the Manchus also reached a preliminary agreement. The two countries still used the Yalu River as their national border and stopped all hostile military actions. Both sides gave up their demands for war reparations from the other side, and North Korea did not need to cede.
Yiju was given to the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and the Manchu Qing Dynasty did not have to repatriate the people taken from North Korea. North Korea also had an additional condition. Once the Manchu Qing Dynasty went to war with Haihan, it would be regarded as actively breaking the agreement to ensure its position.
Synchronize with Haihan.
Of course Shang Kexi is not afraid of the military threat posed by North Korea. If Haihan hadn't intervened, the Manchu Qing would have easily dispatched tens of thousands of troops to destroy North Korea. But this peace agreement must be reconciled with North Korea before Haihan will recognize its validity.
Sex, he had to make compromises. But anyway, he would not chew on the bones of North Korea with little meat left in the near future, and a temporary reconciliation would not harm the interests of the Qing Dynasty.
Chapter completed!