2039 Let's talk about Varyag, what modern class are you talking about?
"You really think we can't complete the construction of the aircraft carrier without your help?"
Nikola Mipodorov looked at Xie Kai with a pale face.
Appreciate no matter how you appreciate it, the other party’s words are an insult to their country.
He believed that this was said by Xie Kai instructed Gu Baonong.
Only young people who cannot tell the difference will say such things just for their own pleasure.
"General, please calm down. If you listen to my next words, you still think this is an insult to you, so I apologize." Xie Kai looked at the excited other party and sighed again in his heart.
Once upon a time, those international technological powers said such things to them at any time.
Twenty years have passed, and it is their turn to tell the declined big bosses.
It’s really a turn of feng shui.
I just had a good time, but more so sad.
"I'm waiting for your explanation. If we can't convince us, you know the consequences." Nikolai Mipodorov was not threatening Xie Kai.
That's the truth.
The consequences are serious.
"In 1993, when your country and Ukraine were quarreling over Varyag funds, in the face of inquiries, Comrade Yuri Ivanovich Makarov, the director of the Black Sea Shipyard, replied that he needed the Soviet Union, the Party Central Committee, the National Planning Commission, the Military Industry Commission and nine Ministry of Defense Industry, 600 related majors, and 8,000 supporting manufacturers to complete the construction of the Varyag..."
Xie Kai used Makarov's words, and the big bosses who were originally excited suddenly stopped saying a word.
It is precisely because of this reason that Da Mao gave up the Varyag.
Otherwise, they would not allow more than 70% of the completed Varyags to be demolished and sold scrap iron.
Even then, they dragged back the Varyag, which had already completed that part of the progress, would not be very likely to be completed.
The Kuznetsov, who is still lying in the northern fleet base, is the most obvious example.
"The Soviet Union collapsed, and the Soviet Party Central Committee no longer exists. The National Planning Commission, the Military Industry Commission, and the nine Ministry of Defense Industry, all of which are dissolved. There are 600 related majors and 8,000 supporting factories. There are still a large part of you. How many of the majors and manufacturers in other domestic franchise republics are alive? If you want to regain the ability to build an aircraft carrier, how long does it take to complete the supporting construction to return to China? How much funds are needed?"
Xie Kai's words made the faces of the bosses who had been silent.
Once upon a time, a country that was so great that the world trembled, disappeared.
Why propose a naval revival strategy?
Isn't it just to return to the top of the world?
The revival of a country is not that easy.
"I think you have been negotiating for a long time with Western countries, which is why we sit together. The West does not want others to be stronger than them, and what we most want is win-win cooperation, everyone makes progress together, and make small money together..." Xie Kai looked at them calm down, "So, Secretary Gu's words are not wrong."
After pausing, Xie Kai looked at them again before continuing to speak: "We have shown full sincerity and are even willing to take out the most advanced active phased array radar and fire control system in our country. What have you provided?"
Xie Kai's words made Damao feel a little embarrassed.
It seems that they are really too much?
"The Soviet Union was once a great country. Your country that inherited most of the Soviet heritage was also a great country. Relatively speaking, you have a stronger foundation and stronger scientific research strength than us, and in the field of technical foundation, you are far stronger than us..."
Xie Kai began to attack the other party, and now he naturally needs to give them confidence.
Otherwise, these guys would be dissatisfied and would not be able to take out their pockets and would not be able to get their wool.
"China was once the world's largest country and has been maintained for many years. Since the founding of New China, we have been following the path of national rejuvenation. No country will be willing to become a backward country... Therefore, our country is saving money, tightening its belt, and improving its domestic industrial system... We have a complete industrial system, you have strong basic strength... Both sides can complement each other and cooperate to develop the most advanced aircraft carriers and warships..."
I haven't heard Xie Kai fooling others like this for many years.
Especially when fooling foreigners, Yue Lin and others look at me and I look at you.
I never expected that over the years, Xie Kai's ability to fool people was not only not abandoned, but instead improved greatly.
Isn’t it just to let the other party ask them to build an aircraft carrier and pay for it obediently?
As for wasting so many words?
"Materials, machinery manufacturing and other fields are your strengths. Although electronic technology, etc., are still quite different from Western countries, but our military grade is better than yours..."
"What do you mean, in the future, you will provide electronic systems, etc., and we will provide basic materials and processing capabilities?" Nicholas almost laughed angry.
This is fucking!
Give all the money to the other party?
What they want is to complete the supporting facilities again and what they want is technology.
In that year, we obtained advanced chip manufacturing technology from Hongqi Group. However, in terms of manufacturing equipment, the investment was small and the market was not large, so there was not much development.
Electronic systems are the most profitable.
"Supervised cooperation is based on Hongxing Shipyard. The technology belongs to both parties..." Xie Kai focuses on the follow-up.
Instead of talking about the Varyag.
"Look at the results of the cooperation of the Varyag first!" Nikola did not answer Xie Kai's words, "If you can't make this aircraft carrier improve its performance..."
Before he finished speaking, the meaning was obvious.
Once the Hudong Shipyard cannot make Varyag performance more advanced than the original Black Sea Shipyard, cooperation will not be of much significance.
If they can tolerate performance and high cost, they can do it themselves.
Even if their technicians use hand-knocking, it is not a problem.
It's just a matter of time.
"Varyag, we have already had a preliminary transformation plan. The total long-range missile launch system will be cancelled and the hangar capacity will be increased. The maximum capacity can be carried 24 to 28 Su-33 carrier-based fighter jets, and at the same time, it will be equipped with the same number of early warning helicopters, anti-submarine helicopters, and even Su-25s as before..."
"We already know these."
Previously, technicians from 701 discussed improvement plans with their relevant personnel.
Da Mao also brought up his ideas, and the two sides will continue to have in-depth discussions in subsequent cooperation.
In the 1980s, the 3K-45 "Gramite" anti-ship missile was able to effectively threaten the safety of the enemy aircraft carrier battle group outside the strike range.
However, with the development of science and technology in recent years, the electronic warfare systems and close-defense systems of various types of navies in the world have been greatly improved.
Ship-to-ship granite anti-ship has lagged behind.
In the precious space of the aircraft carrier, 12 huge oblique vertical launchers take up too much space.
This severely backlogs up the hangar space.
Whether it is the Kuznetsov or the Varyag, although the tonnage is large enough, because of the addition of many weapon systems, the number of carrier-based fighters that can carry is much smaller than that of the Western-style aircraft carrier.
According to theoretical data, the 001 aircraft carrier, designed and built by the Varyag, can carry more than 36 J-15s, as well as other models of fighter jets and helicopters.
The maximum number of carrier-based aircraft can reach 64.
But the Varyag is not good. No matter how it is changed, since most of the hulls are completed, they have to be sized outside.
The deck area cannot be increased. What can be increased in the capacity of the hangar is to change the area where the Soviets installed missiles into the hangar...
Therefore, the Navy does not want such an aircraft carrier very much.
"None of these are the problems, the problem now is the price." Nikolai Mipodorov directly raised the price question.
They were very satisfied with the plan.
But what about the price?
"General, I heard that in order to promote this cooperation, our Navy has added two 956E Modern Class missile destroyers to your country?" Xie Kai asked suddenly.
Nicholas and others just looked at him and didn't say anything.
Li Qingming and others also looked at Xie Kai in confusion.
I haven't heard that the Navy has added orders to two Type 956 missile destroyers.
Even Yue Lin didn't know what Xie Kai wanted to express.
In the 1990s, because the Navy had many supporting facilities in China, it designed a 0.55 million-ton large-drive and the 052C equipped with an active phased array radar. It was not known when it would be completed, so it purchased two 956-type modern-class missile destroyers.
At that time, it was actually to escort Varyag.
No one expected that Varyag would only come back now in the end.
According to history, just entering the 21st century, the Navy used the Type 956 missile destroyer and after understanding the performance, it would continue to order in 2002. As a result, the Hudong Shipyard and the 701 have made great breakthroughs in the work progress, and there has been no movement.
Zheng Ming didn't say that doesn't mean Xie Kai didn't know.
When talking to the other party before, Zheng Ming had to say something but stopped several times, probably because he was afraid that Xie Kai would help Hudong Shipyard to win orders for these two ships after he found out.
With a group of bigwigs in the development of the navy, Xie Kai will definitely not make a fuss about the orders of the Hudong Shipyard.
However, the Russians must have killed the Navy in this matter.
The two 956 ships were ordered by the Soviet Red Navy, but were not completed when the Soviet Union collapsed. In addition, the salary of the Damao Navy could not be paid, so they kept lying in the northern shipyard. In the end, China wanted to buy them, and Damao directly completed the construction of the two ships to China.
The prices of those two ships are quite authentic.
$800 million.
After all, Xie Kai sold a frigate of less than 3,000 tons like 053 for a high price of US$200 million.
But this time it's different.
The two newly ordered 956 ships will definitely not be lower than historical data, and each ship will cost at least US$700 million.
Chapter completed!