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Sorry, the time has come. Soon we are now in the free debate for 4 minutes, and the free debate officially begins.

Zhengfang: I would like to ask the other party, if someone uses a knife to kill the third party, do you hope that he will be sentenced to death because he uses a knife to kill someone, or do you hope that he will not do this because he cannot kill someone. Killing is bad, is it cruel to not do this? Do you hope that he will not do this from an ideological perspective, or do you hope that he will not do this because of severe punishment?

Opposing side: A gentleman is open and honest. Confucius never pretends to be wrong. He said, "You know that you cannot violate it but you cannot violate it." Please explain what it means to "You cannot violate it"? (Laughter)

The righteous side: "Knowing that it cannot be violated" just means that if there is no way to do it, of course, please don't forget. Mencius once said, "It is not impossible to violate it", that is, if it does not violate it, you can still do it. Then, I would like to ask the opponent's debater, although Confucius does not have a second one, are the four elegant young men, the opponent's debater, the best formation under Confucius' education?

Opposing side: I think this person is wrong. We love Confucius, but we have not received the education of Confucius. People who have received education like Zixia are unwilling to lend an umbrella to block the rain for Confucius!

Pro-Factor: Thank you to the other debater for acknowledging that Confucianism has its essence. May I ask the other debater, should we be filial to our parents, should we love our brothers and sisters, should we respect our relatives and neighbors? Should we respect our teachers, especially teachers like Professor Wu?

Opponent: Thank you, my friend. I heard the other party’s remarks clearly. I really want to hear the other party give an example. Even if there is no Western thought? The other party’s first said that digesting Western thoughts is a complete ban; and the third said that a part of the Western thoughts can be brought in, as long as it is weakened, then the question may need to be changed, and I ask the other party to answer.

The positive side: Our debate means prohibition if we don’t say digestion. The first point is to clarify. The second point is that the existence of Western thought cannot prove that Confucianism does not digest it, because there is Western thought everywhere. However, where there is Western thought is the place where Confucianism should play its greatest role. It is the place where Western thought is digested.

Opposing side: You just said that only when Confucianism is deeply rooted in people's hearts. I would like to ask, look at yesterday and know today and tomorrow, Confucianism has not been able to do it for more than two thousand years. Do we have to wait for another two thousand years? (laughs))

Zheng Fang: Speaking of the legal system, cattle and horses will also move forward under the whip. What is the above? First, Mencius told us that there is only the difference between benevolence and righteousness! If everyone moves forward with the whip today, then what is human society? Speaking of digestion, in the entire work of Confucianism, which one does not talk about specific actions? Is filial piety a specific action? Isn’t caring for your brother a specific action? Isn’t the other debater in the comprehensive social treatment plan? Is it not the guiding principle of Confucian value system?

The opposing side: Please do not confuse the fine traditions of Chinese culture with Confucianism. This is off topic.

The correct formula: The fine tradition of Chinese culture, Confucian land is indeed part of it. I would like to ask the other party, if Western thoughts are a chronic disease today, should we treat it? Although it cannot be cured in one day, the master will say when he sees it: Oh, there is still a disease now, so this medicine cannot cure the disease? But we know that good medicine is bitter, and it is not a matter of curing it for a day or two. So can you say that because his disease still exists. Don’t he take medicine again?

Opposing: Please do not ask the internal physician to perform surgery. Confucius has long said that drawing cakes cannot satisfy hunger, and giant elephants cannot catch mice. Can you use harpoons to farm (laughter)

The positive side: Please tell us that if you want to rectify this society, you must adopt an idea to digest Western thoughts. What ideas and actions should you use?

Opposing side: We rely on comprehensive governance. Can we solve the problem by so many Western ideas?

Zhengfang: Confucianism alone can solve it. What kind of ideas do you want to use?

The opposing side: Let me give you another example. A few days ago, the Lianhe Evening News reported that filial daughters were illegal. Is this a great law or a great favor?

Zhengfang: This is because he did not accept Confucianism. (Applause) If she accepted Confucianism, it would be like me. My parents are so great. (Laughter, applause)

Opposite: Confucianism emphasizes human feelings rather than law. Let’s see, what New China uses to digest local unhealthy trends, its biggest measure is fines.

Zhengfang: Thank you for mentioning the law again. I learned the law and told us that a common sense is that the law is made from morality and becomes a clause. May I ask the other party’s debater, what is the function of a law without moral connotation besides a whip?

The opposing side: If you hold the filial piety of your father and son, then that case cannot be solved. What's more, it's not filial piety, it's a joke!

Zhengfang: The other party misunderstood again. Father is hidden by the son is not a Confucian concept. Confucianism tells us to give advice and tell our father that it is wrong, but the attitude should be tactful and we should tell our father that it is wrong. I would like to ask the other party, if the development of democratic politics today is in the 16th and 18th centuries, the political society in the time should be completely poured into human minds so that everyone can understand Western thoughts! But what was Western thought at that time? Please ask the other party’s debater to answer

Opposing side: I really want to ask the other party to answer when and where does Confucianism digest Western thought? Please note that it is digesting Western thought, which is superior to that, of course, has an overwhelming advantage. Please answer.

The opposing debater said that a person who produced a person in the late Qing Dynasty did not have a traditional belief. Then, the phenomenon that it produced was what the other party said, and Western thoughts were generally blown into, and all Eastern societies, so today, this digestion is to gradually decline this Western trend. What I personally see is that the Siberian region respects teachers and Taoism very much. This is the concrete manifestation of digesting Western thoughts!

Opposing side: We can take a look at the other party’s late Qing Dynasty, from Yuan Shikai to Empress Dowager Cixi. Which one does not respect Confucius and who does not read the scriptures? But isn’t China still full of holes read by them? (Applause)

The positive side: There is an image of respecting Confucius, but there is no substantial connotation of respecting Confucius. Only by turning thoughts into actions can we truly prove that Confucianism can digest Western thoughts. Yuan Shikai went to Cixi to do not turn Confucianism into actions. It was just a name for Confucius.

The opposing side: It seems that this person has obtained the true teaching of Confucianism, but if you wait for you to implement it, then the depraved young man who wanders on the streets will probably have already broken his head.

The positive side: Digestion is by no means that we take it all overnight

To go, to kill the enemy, we must slowly drive the enemy out. Especially in the West, it is so terrible, so we must be able to implement Confucianism well, slowly and patiently.

Opposing side: Now it is "not entering a chaotic country, not living in a dangerous country." Confucius refused to go to a chaotic country, how can we prove that Confucianism digests Western thought?

The righteous side: Mencius also said that if a seven-year illness is not enough to ask for three years of love. The opponent's debater only wants to seek small profits and seek quick success. Confucius also said that hasteness will not achieve success.

Chairman: The time has come for the positive side, thank you. The opposition continues—

Opposing side: Now, Western thought has been in. How do we digest Western thoughts? Since human nature is as perfect as the other party said, then no one will commit crimes. But we know that if a person learns well for three years and learns bad for three days, how can we digest Western thoughts?

Opposite: Confucius said that those who are close to vermilion are red, while those who are close to mourning are black. If Confucianism can digest Western thoughts, then this sentence should be changed to those who are close to mourning are not red. Those who are close to mourning are not black!

Zhengfang: I don’t object to the other party’s eating ancient food, but the question is whether you have digested the stomach and intestines.

Opposing side: The other side emphasizes...

Chairman: There is still one minute left, please continue-

Opposing side: The other side emphasizes that Western thoughts are governed politically, socially and culturally. This seems to be our comprehensive governance viewpoint. Thank you for supporting us.

Opposite: Let’s take a look at what Confucianism uses to digest Western thoughts? What does it use to digest the increase in divorce rates? It uses the fate of the matchmaker, the words of parents, and the arrangement of marriages, which caused many peacocks to fly southeast.

Opposing side: Since Confucius, Confucianism has divided into eight schools. Which school should the other side use and which dynasty should they digest Western thoughts?

Opposite: Confucianism has never been a ball of flour that can be kneaded by others. It is the best like water, like running water, and cannot be seen or touched.

The opposite side: Even Confucius also had the idea of ​​not paying attention to ghosts and gods. Confucius said: "Is ghosts and gods a virtuous person strong?" Doesn't this also mean that Confucianism cannot digest Western thoughts?

Opposing side: In general, don’t be obsessed with it, let alone grasp it...

Chairman: The time has come, thank you! (Applause) Now please ask the fourth representative of the opposition to summarize the arguments, let us invite Li Guangdou. Li, please!

Oppose: Thank you friends! I would like to point out a fact, that is, in real life, Confucianism does not digest Western thoughts. We all yearn for a holy place without Western thoughts, but this situation should only be found in heaven and can be heard in the world. We see that in the Chinese society where Confucianism is dominant, the wind of Western thought is still blowing around. Facts are better than words. Confucianism cannot digest Western thoughts, and it is an indisputable fact. Given that debate is difficult to distinguish and resolve, I need to make the following explanation around the debate topic:

First, what is digestion? Digestion of course refers to effective digestion, which is stronger than the other party in terms of effect. However, the other party understands digestion as suppression and as scattering, so digestion becomes indigestive, which is very clever. However, I reminded this to change the concept.

The second point is Confucianism. The other party generalizes a system of thought. We believe that although Confucianism is broad and profound, it is also all-encompassing. It is inevitable that it will be filled with mud and sand, and it will be incompatible. Therefore, it is necessary to inherit Confucianism critically; while the other party splits Confucianism and sacred and religiousizes Confucianism. How can this digest Western thought?

We do not want to turn today's debate into a theory of the advantages and disadvantages of Confucianism. We also love Confucianism, but it cannot digest Western thoughts and is not a magic pill. Just like we were amazed at its exquisiteness in front of the bronze chariot and horse standing by the Qin Emperor. But we would not drive the Shels Bridge on this beautiful antique.

(Laughs) Confucianism is a cultural heritage. But it does not have the function of digesting Western thoughts. I appreciate the other party’s memory of ancient books. However, a good doctor does not depend on how many prescriptions it recites, but on a dying patient, he wants to resurrect a dying patient. Confucianism is powerless in the face of Western thought. Didn’t Confucius also issue the “knowing it is impossible but not disobeying it”? Indeed, as the other party said. Confucianism is as elegant as the breeze and the moon, but the proposition discussed today is that Confucianism cannot digest Western thoughts.

We have always wanted to know where there is no Western thought? Is there no Vietnam? Is there no Siberia? Or is there no Western thought in a certain place? Where did you digest it? The quality of Confucianism itself is not included in the discussion. We also yearn for a world of harmony where the Tao does not pick up the remains and no doors are closed at night. However, the other party fantasizes to respond to changes in a constant state and put a realistic issue in a vacuum to discuss.

If you carefully analyze the other party’s four arguments, you can see that they imagined a society without Western thoughts in advance. Then consider the digestion of Confucianism. I remind all friends that this is obviously a sophistry logic. Summarize our argument: We believe that slaves of money and material have become slaves of lust and sensory enjoyment. We have repeatedly pointed out that from ancient times to the present, governing a unhealthy trend requires comprehensive governance, not ideological changes, but social environment changes people, and economic, legal and political means are needed to take multiple approaches.

Confucianism is a natural economic moral concept. Today we are facing an industrial society. When Western thoughts are vigorously blowing, it is obviously not feasible to use Western thoughts without a specific solution. Western scholar McKendall pointed out that digesting Western thoughts requires social technology and legal means. However, Confucianism cannot be polite to common people, punish the doctor, and pursues one's own perfection. How can this digest Western thoughts?

Two years ago, the President pointed out that digesting Western thought is a comprehensive process, and curing this social disease cannot rely on Confucianism. In the examination of Confucianism, we have a deep understanding of its function of not digesting Western thoughts, but we do not surrender it because of this. We are willing to digest Western thoughts with each other, but we do not use Confucianism. The road is long and arduous, and I will search up and down. Thank you everyone! (Applause)

Chairman: Thank you. It is now the last representative of the Pro-State Party, Shi Shihao. Time is 4 minutes, Shi Please—

Zheng Fang: If there is no Western thought, then don’t talk about digestion at all. If the opponent’s debater said, if there is no illness, then why should I talk about medicine? Today, Confucianism is just like the opponent’s debater said in a comprehensive medical technology above the diagnosis and treatment! Today, various diagnosis and treatment are just prescriptions, and how to prepare depends on the doctor’s behavior. Today, doctors have benevolence and benevolence, which is the guiding principle of all comprehensive treatments. It is true that as the opponent’s second debater said, today, the value system of Western thought is completely different from Confucianism.

This is how Confucianism can selectively exclude Western thought from the country through its value judgment, which is exactly the digestion of Western thought. Today,

From the historical process, Western thoughts have spread all over the world. I think, at that time, don’t ignore the fact that the West has used its strong ships and cannons to attack >:| since the 19th century, so that the society of the East has lost the confidence of its nation. At this time, Western thoughts are still rushing into the world with foreign goods, foreign guns and foreign wines.

So, if we want to say that the whole world is a sterile place today, then what is the point of talking about Confucianism eliminating unhealthy trends? I am very happy that the other debater said that they must accept Confucianism critically, and we are just holding this attitude, telling everyone that what we want to accept critically today is a ability of Confucianism to digest the spread of Western thought.

OK, today the opponent's debater told us to use various sociological methods to digest Western ideas. So, how can we use a comprehensive Western sociology method to digest? Today, which Western society does not use sociological methods to manage their country? So, have their unhealthy trends been cured?

Obviously, there is no. So, the opponent's debater painted a more beautiful garden and asked us to look forward to it. Can such a garden be effective in a so-called comprehensive rectification? Today, what our debater wants to propose is a doctor who is kind and kind to tell you how to use medicine and how to prescribe medicine. Otherwise, just like Western countries, they will be self-disciplined. The more they take, the sicker they get, and so far, it has made the unhealthy trends in countries around the world become more and more serious. This is really a matter of repeated concern for the opponent's debater.

I also thank the other debater for being very worried about the general unhealthy trend in the world and hope to find an optimization method. Today we proposed an optimization method, and the other debater also hoped to accept it critically. On this point, we obviously reached a consensus. OK, today the other debater said that Confucianism has thousands of contents, which one should we choose? I think the other party has given us the answer, but they are not willing to admit it, that is to accept it critically.

Today, the opponent's debater mentioned a possible disadvantage in the Confucian system. The opponent also said that it is not to use this to deny the value of Confucianism. Today, although Confucius does not know the situation two thousand years later, of course, Confucius is not a star master. He is not a prophet, of course he will not see the situation two thousand years later, and he does not have the crystal ball of the gypsy. So, he is based on a kind of care for people and the land. Isn't this a way to go from self-cultivation, to govern the country, and to pacify the world?

Start with one person. Isn’t this specific filial piety, friendship with brothers, respect relatives and neighbors? Isn’t this specific enough? This is more specific than an abstract academic noun - comprehensive rectification. Which one is more specific? Can the eight debaters present digest Western thoughts by not being filial to their parents when they return? Can Western thoughts be optimized by relying solely on the five words "comprehensive rectification" we learned in school? I want to go back to today’s debate topic, whether Confucianism is good or bad. As the opponent’s debater said, if we accept it critically, we can suppress Western thoughts.

Chairman: Time is up, thank you (applause)! Now we are entering the time for the audience to ask questions. Each audience can only speak once, and the time is limited to 30 seconds.

Audience: I am Zhao Yunzhen from Malaysia, and I have a few questions to ask the Zhengfang. Confucius once said, "A gentleman is not a tool", which means that a gentleman should be flexible, not a Confucius shop. Please ask the Zhengfang to answer my question. Second, Confucius also said, "Daozi uses politics, Qi Yuan uses punishment, and the people are exempted from shame, Daozi uses virtue, Qi Zi uses ritual, and there is shame and qualities." I asked the Zhengfang to answer my question. Third, the opposing party said, "The people can be used to it, but not to know it." This means that if you are smart, you can't help but act freely, and if you don't understand, you should teach him. Thank you!

Chairman: Time is up.

Zhao Gang was sweating a lot on the side. It turned out that the original meaning of "the people can be used, but not to know it." He was still guessing there, but fortunately he didn't say it out, otherwise he would be disgraceful. He looked up at the opposing second debater, his face turned red like a pig's liver, and he no longer dared to look at people.

Zheng Fang: Thank you for your question. I want to thank you for your thoughts about "the people can be used, but not known" just now. That is, if the people really cannot be exercised, then they should be allowed to obey such a norm. OK, the opponent's debater, oh, sorry, the question this person asked just now is that if a moral norm is not instilled in a legal spirit, it will produce a kind of "people are exempt and shameless".

Today, we just escape punishment like that, which is no different from beasts. Today we should pay attention to an elegant society and emphasize that people have a connotation. It is important that they do their own moral self-criticism and choose their own actions. This is the value of a real person. I think Confucius emphasized this point, rather than asking the Legalists to achieve immediate results.

The positive side: Confucius was the time of a saint. As the other party said, we criticize the bad parts of Confucianism and digest the parts that can digest Western thoughts. This is what you call the question of the times, that is, we must find the essence of Confucianism in the view of the times, and digest Western thoughts...

Chairman: Time is up, thank you! Thank you!

Audience: My surname is Chen, I think Confucianism and Western thought...

Chairman: Do you want to ask the pros and cons or the opposite side?

Audience: I want to ask the opposite side.

Chairman: Yes!

Audience: (Continue to speak) are two completely different ideological systems and action modes. Therefore, I would like to ask the opposing side: Does a person who is deeply influenced by Confucianism and has a deep influence on behavior and thought will also have many Western-style behaviors that are not accepted by Eastern society? Thank you!

Chairman: Thank you!

Opposite: Let me answer this gentleman’s question. Why does Confucianism come into being? It has such an assumptional premise. All people in the world will become saints, and in this way they will digest Western thoughts. However, not all the gentlemen, gentlemen, and people who are here in society commit crimes. In other words, there are still some people in the world who cannot digest Western thoughts.

Western thought has come in, why can't Confucianism digest this unhealthy trend? It does not have this antibody or this function. Why do we have to stick to the shortcomings? We should use the method of comprehensive governance. The other party just said that we inherit critically, and we inherit Confucianism critically, but we do not use it to digest Western thought, because it cannot be digested and cannot be digested. Thank you all friends!

Opposite: Let me add. Just because as this gentleman said, Confucianism and Western thought are two different concepts, we cannot simply put them together. What we emphasize is comprehensive governance.

Opposing side: Let me add one more. In fact, Confucianism has great ideas.

Confucianism is a theory of governing the world, not a theory of governing chaos, which also says, "Therefore, a gentleman must choose a border when living, and he must be in charge of the rule." Thank you!

Chairman: Time is up, thank you!

Audience: I am Lu Wei from Fudan. I want to ask Zhengfang a question. Zhengfang has always emphasized the method of comparison. Then digestion should be to defend the enemy outside the country. Do we digest a hundred enemies, and if an enemy comes in, it is not considered digested? Can you ask the other party for this question?

The positive side: digesting outside the country is the definition given by the opponent's debaters. That is to say, what I am talking about is the trend of Western thought. When the trend comes in, we suppress it, which is called digestion.

Zheng Fang: We also know that if we want to resist the enemy, we don’t have to fight abroad. If the enemy is very strong, after it invades the country, we will slowly digest it. Therefore, the other party’s digestion is fighting outside the country, which is invasion, not digestion.

Zhengfang: We have seen the achievements of Confucianism in Asian society, that is, the unhealthy trends in the West. Looking at the consequences of the East in the West, we found that there are relatively fewer societies in the East, so this is that Confucianism has played its role.
To be continued...