2407. Chapter 2407
Chapter 2407
Judging from the content of the message sent back by Qian Tiandun, it was clearly stated that the Manchu Qing Dynasty's request for an armistice was to prepare for a comprehensive armistice with Haihan in all areas, but the armistice did not include other countries. This shows that
The Manchu and Qing Dynasties did not intend to have an armistice with neighboring countries such as the Ming Dynasty and North Korea. Haihan wanted to package the Ming Dynasty and North Korea as the armistice objects of the Manchu and Qing Dynasties in the peace negotiation conditions. I am afraid that the Manchu and Qing Dynasties would not accept it. This reason is not complicated.
Tao Donglai let everyone present understand the reason without wasting much words.
"North Korea has just changed to a new king. Anyone with a discerning eye knows that this new king was supported by us, and our country has many large-scale industrial projects under construction in North Korea. If Huang Taiji does not want to provoke us, then there is the possibility of sending large-scale troops to North Korea.
It’s not big anymore.” Yan Chujie analyzed: “The Ming Dynasty is more dangerous. As Lao Tao just analyzed, the Manchu and Qing Dynasties should have seen the gap between the Ming Dynasty and our country, so they used the truce and peace talks to separate our country.
The relationship with Ming Dynasty."
"The armistice is good for our country and bad for the Ming Dynasty, so in fact, the two sides are still wrestling with the Ming Dynasty and the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and we are just the seesaw in the middle." Tao Donglai continued what Yan Chujie said: "What we have to do is to start from both sides.
While striving for more benefits, we must also try to keep the situation balanced and not allow one party to gain the upper hand easily."
"This bowl of water is not so easy to level." Ning Qi responded thoughtfully: "The situation in the north is now significantly different from the original history. The Manchu and Qing Dynasties have obtained more advanced technology from overseas.
Weaponry technology may allow the Qing army to rapidly increase its strength. Whether the Ming Dynasty... can still hold on, it’s hard to say!”
Yan Chujie snorted coldly and said: "If people don't save themselves, God will not save them. Daming also knows that as long as they ask us for help, there is a chance of a comeback, but they are planning to go all the way to the dark side. What can you do?"
Haihan was extremely disappointed with the performance of the Ming Dynasty during the invasion by the Qing Dynasty. The Ming Dynasty neither organized a decent defense nor requested assistance from Haihan in time. The entire resistance process was a mess. Even Haihan
It is difficult to send troops deep into the interior to confront the main force of the Qing army on a frontal battlefield, but if the Ming Dynasty had asked for help earlier, Haihan could have organized an armed fleet to sail upstream from the mouth of the Yellow River and attack the Qing army in the area where it crossed the river. If
With the right timing, it might be possible to deter the Qing army from crossing the river and save the city of Jinan on the south bank of the Yellow River.
But in fact, it was not until the Qing army bypassed the capital and approached Shandong that Haihan knew that all the defensive measures deployed by the Ming Dynasty in the north had been broken down and could no longer prevent the Qing army from wreaking havoc. But even so, the Ming Dynasty did not make any statement to ask for help from Haihan.
This also reflects from the side that the Ming Dynasty was deeply wary of Haihan, which was probably no less hostile to the Manchus.
If the Ming Dynasty did not ask for help, it would be difficult for Haihan to take the initiative to send troops to intervene. These fighting areas are hundreds of miles away from the Haihan military base, and most of them are inland. Without the full cooperation of the Ming Dynasty, Haihan would definitely
They would not send their own elite to take risks in such an environment. But as long as there are a few more large-scale invasions like this and the Ming Dynasty is still so weak, the Manchu Qing Dynasty will probably truly realize the possibility of replacing the Ming Dynasty in ruling the world.
"The problem is here. Even if we are willing to provide some form of military assistance to Ming Dynasty, Ming Dynasty may not be willing to accept it." Tao Donglai further explained Yan Chujie's words: "We are still unable to confirm Ming Dynasty's attitude.
, but I personally feel that it is not optimistic."
If Ming Dynasty is unwilling to compromise, it will be difficult for Haihan to gain more benefits from Ming Dynasty by hyping up the armistice peace talks. But Ming Dynasty can break the pot, but Haihan cannot sit idly by for the sake of his own development.
The Ming Dynasty fell under the iron heel of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, so we had to find ways to help the Ming Dynasty maintain its rule.
Tao Donglai continued: "So the measures we need to take now are to put pressure on the Ming Dynasty. We must attract their attention to the change in the Manchu and Qing attitude. We must make them realize that once our country ceases war with the Manchu Qing Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty will
What kind of difficult situation we will face!"
There was silence in the conference room for a while, and then Ning Qi's voice was heard again: "It's true that you can't shed tears until you see the coffin! Even if you are pretending, you have to show it to Ming Dynasty first. You have to let those people in the hall of Ming Dynasty
Realize that we will really sit down and negotiate an armistice with the Manchus."
"If this is the case, then Tom Wang may have to go to Jinzhou to preside over the negotiations." Gu Kai added: "It would be more logical for Tom to represent the executive committee and change the name."
Wang Tom's identity is not only a military boss, but also the current executive committee member. He is the only one in the north. It does not take much time to rush to Jinzhou from North Korea. If the executive committee is to be used next
In the name of negotiating with the Manchu Qing Dynasty, it was indeed more formal for Wang Tom to come forward.
"But if Ming Dynasty wants to start a high-level dialogue with us after realizing the seriousness of the problem, can Tom Wang handle it alone in Jinzhou?" Bai Kesi questioned this.
Of course, what he questioned was not Wang Tom's military quality, but whether Wang Tom had enough diplomatic skills to deal with the Manchu and Ming Dynasties at the same time. He not only had to win more benefits for Haihan from his negotiating opponents, but also let him
Northeast Asia continues to maintain the kind of delicate balance needed for Haihan.
Yan Chujie immediately defended his colleagues: "Don't forget, the alliance agreement signed between our country and North Korea was negotiated by Wang Tom who went to Seoul in person. He is not a layman in diplomacy. And regarding the specific situation in Northeast Asia,
I don’t think anyone here can understand it more thoroughly than him. If even he is not qualified, then who else here can be responsible for this job?”
When Haihan signed the alliance agreement with North Korea, it was not all smooth sailing. When Wang Tom went there, he took most of the warships of the Northern Fleet with him and showed some strength to the North Koreans on the Han River outside Seoul.
The matter was settled. It is not possible to say how much diplomacy was involved in this. In the end, the decisive factor was the powerful force displayed by Haihan.
This time we have to negotiate with the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty at the negotiating table. The final outcome of the negotiation will probably depend on military strength. Yan Chujie is aware of this, so he does not want the Executive Committee to send another
Someone went to the north to take charge of this matter, so as not to steal the spotlight from the military.
Of course, it is difficult for anyone to take the initiative to do such a difficult job of leaving the comfortable environment of Sanya for a long time, taking a boat to Liaodong, thousands of miles away, to handle difficult diplomatic negotiations, and taking responsibility for the results of the negotiations.
Take responsibility. So after Yan Chujie spoke, no one else questioned the person responsible for the negotiation.
But determining the person responsible for the negotiation is only the first step, and formulating a negotiation strategy is the real problem. Since it is still difficult to determine Ming's attitude, the executive committee is difficult to issue some specific instructions. It can only formulate a rough plan first.
The direction and conditional framework of the negotiations are left to the officials responsible for the matter to control the scale and timing. In order to ensure that everything is done carefully and that others can supervise the implementation process, the Executive Committee plans to involve several other senior officials in the north to join the plan.
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At present, in addition to Wang Tom, Haihan's senior officials in the north include Qian Tiandun, Chen Yixin, and Hao Wanqing. Except for Hao Wanqing, who is affiliated with the Ministry of Security, the other three are experienced senior military generals who are familiar with the situation in the north.
, it can be said that this lineup basically represents the will of the military. However, Chen Yixin and Qian Tiandun received the Manchu envoys one after another and have a better understanding of the ins and outs of this matter, and Hao Wanqing is an intelligence officer, so naturally he cannot be absent from such an important event.
, so it wouldn’t be too abrupt to have three other people join in.
But when a discerning person sees this lineup, it is not difficult to think that Haihan's current way of ruling overseas colonies has shown a serious bias. That is, overseas colonies far away from Hainan Island are almost all under the management of military generals.
, and there is often a lack of senior officials responsible for administration, civil affairs, commerce, culture and education to preside over local government affairs.
The reason for this situation is not that the military holds power and is unwilling to let the executive committee appoint civilian officials to govern locally, but because there are too few people in the group of time travelers who are willing to develop overseas for a long time, and only those from the military
Senior generals are more motivated and have a sense of responsibility, and are willing to lead troops to fight and expand territories all year round.
The vast majority of time travelers had various ambitions when they first participated in the operation. At least half of the ten people wanted to become the ruler of a certain region in this era. But when they actually came to this
After time and space, I slowly realized that many goals are not easy to achieve, and are often far beyond their capabilities. Ordinary people cannot become famous people in history by changing their environment. For the vast majority of ordinary people, no matter they change
No matter what the environment, in the end you can only be an ordinary person.
The only good thing is that even if these people who know their destiny don't have to work hard, they can still enjoy the dividends brought by time travel in this time and space, effortlessly live a high-class life, successfully marry a wife and have children without any worries.
Carefree rich people. They may hold some dispensable positions in Sanya, or they may manage a town with a small population somewhere on Hainan Island. In short, they have a mediocre job, and they can go to Annan during their annual vacation.
Visit Halong Bay or Guangzhou City of Ming Dynasty.
But if these people are asked to leave Hainan Island to develop in other places, they will often refuse such a transfer, because everyone knows that in this time and space, the only place where the living conditions are closest to the 21st century is Sanya. And in Hainan
The place outside the island is basically another world, a world that is hundreds of years different from their living habits. Although they can live a very superior life in overseas colonies, in their view, the social environment
After all, it will be compared with Sanya, because it is likely that there will be no opportunity to communicate face-to-face with "similar people" for months or even years.
This is not an isolated phenomenon among the group of time-travelers. Even in high-level organizations such as the Executive Committee, some people are gradually showing a similar mentality. Only by staying in Sanya can you live among the group of time-travelers, and leaving here means
Not everyone has the determination and will to give up their past to a certain extent and completely integrate into the environment of this time and space. Many people still hope to retain their own life circle and enjoy the stability of having no worries about food and clothing in Hainan Island.
day.
There are fewer and fewer travelers who are willing to go overseas for development, and the Executive Committee has no good solution for this. It cannot forcefully assign overseas missions and treat its own people as criminals. And truly taste the sweetness of overseas development.
Basically, there are only special groups mainly composed of military generals. Of course, they will not take the initiative to ask the executive committee to send someone to share their power. So as time goes by, it gradually becomes this weird situation.
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Therefore, when dealing with overseas affairs nowadays, the executive committee often has to rely on the power of the military. The reason is that there are often only high-level military officials in the local area. What else can they do if they are not handed over to the military? Like this time in the north
With such a major change in the situation, the Executive Committee could only hand over the errands to the military. Fortunately, there was still Hao Wanqing staying in the north, who could play a supervisory role in the negotiation process.
Of course, the Executive Committee will not let this bad trend go unchecked, so it is currently trying to find ways to tap the potential within the group, trying to train more people with the ability to govern, and then send them to serve overseas. But so far,
Such efforts do not seem to have any obvious results.
The news about the Manchu and Qing Dynasty's attempts to seek armistice and peace talks is still a high-level secret that only a few people know, and there is no news on the market. However, the Qing army's looting operations in the Ming Dynasty in the past few months have been published on the
It has appeared in various newspapers in Sanya and has become a hot topic among the people recently.
Since more than half of the population of Haihan are immigrants from the Ming Dynasty, the people have a natural affinity for the Ming Dynasty. However, because of this, the public opinion trend among the people is almost all that they hate iron but cannot make steel, and think that the resistance of the Ming Dynasty is too shocking.
People were disappointed that the mighty Celestial Empire was unable to resist the invasion of the Qing army. You must know that just a few years ago, the predecessor of the Manchu Qing Dynasty was just a small Jianzhou Guard under the jurisdiction of the Ming Dynasty. Nurhaci has only been able to claim the title of Khan since he was founded.
It has only been more than ten years. How come the situation has developed so fast that the Qing army has already crossed the Yellow River in one fell swoop.
Of course, while blaming the Ming Dynasty, public opinion also generally believed that the Ming Dynasty did not seek help from Haihan in a timely manner like Korea, which was one of the main reasons for its complete defeat in front of the Qing army.
Chapter completed!