Chapter 68: An Interview with Plato
Plato was stunned and immediately smiled: "Lucias, I'm glad to see you again! You have gained weight and I almost didn't recognize you."
Indeed, Lycias was a superior life and successful career at this time. He was no longer as shabby as writing defense verbs for others in Athens and making money. He patted his belly, which was obviously prominent under the gorgeous Bolton, and seemed helpless, but he sighed in slight smugly: "I am getting older and older, but my flesh is growing more and more. No matter how I can't reduce it, there is really no way."
Plato replied with a smile: "Because as you grow older, it is your experience and knowledge!"
After being given by Plato, Lycias laughed, pointed at the person next to him, and said enthusiastically: "I'll introduce you to you that this is the veteran of Dionia and the main organizer of this "All Greek Scholars" - Anshitaros."
"Is it Ansitanos who wrote "The History of Great Greece"?!" Plato asked with surprise.
"I wrote the Great History of Greece, but I can barely read it." Ansitanos said modestly: "Unlike Plato, the Ideal Kingdom, you wrote, shocked scholars in all Greeks, even our King Daphs praised your book, saying it was a political book, and praising you as the great Plato!"
Ansitanos' praise made Plato feel a little embarrassed. He said frankly: "This book was written by me for 12 years in the Mediterranean and using the knowledge I have obtained from observation and thinking. There are still many flaws and ills that are constantly being improved..."
In fact, when this book was written, it caused a lot of controversy and criticism in Athens, because Plato criticized the shortcomings of democratic systems in the book.
Plato turned to praise: "It is the "History of the Great Greece" written by Lord Ansitanos, with plain text and rigorous textual research, time as the vertical line, and events that occurred at the same time in the city-states of Great Greece as the horizontal line, which clearly describes the history of Great Greece for hundreds of years. I think it is no less than Thucydides' "History of the Peloponnese War", and also allows our Greek people to have a good understanding of the difficult history of the Greek colonies in southern Italy for hundreds of years. I have collected three books properly in the bookstore of my school..."
"Don't praise each other for now, we have to leave here quickly. Ansitanos, don't forget, King Davers is still waiting to meet Plato!" Lycias urged.
"Your king wants to see me?" Plato was surprised.
"Didn't I just said that King Davers highly respects you. The reason I want to see you now is because the conference has not started yet and will not be too eye-catching." Ansitanos explained.
Plato understood as soon as he thought about it, and then smiled and said, "It's great, I'm just about to meet the magical king who created the miracle of Dionyya!"
Compared with the two scholars who came before, there were more bystanders who recognized Plato, not because he was more famous at this time, but because he had completed his journey to major Mediterranean countries and city-states for a few years, Hippocrates and Democritus had entered his old age and rarely went out for a long trip.
For example, when Agrigento's merchant Uropez was traveling to Sicily, he met Plato when he was doing business in Syracuse and Leotini. At this moment, he looked at Plato's far away back and thought: the famous Greek doctor - Hippocrates, an omniscient scholar - a student of Democritus, and a famous Athenian scholars - Plato. In just half a day, Dionya invited three well-known experts from the Greek world. The all-Greek scholar conference held by Dionya must be full of scholars, and it may be quite attractive. Is Turiyi trying to replace Athens and become an academic center in the Greek world?!
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Regarding this great philosopher and thinker who was called the "father of philosophy" by Westerners in their previous life, when Westerners talked about political and philosophical research, they even had the consensus that "Plato is philosophy, and philosophy is Plato", so Davers longed to see it.
Plato also hopes to see this young king who can quickly rise to the most powerful Greek power in the Western Mediterranean, and can ask in person the political mystery of "making the country fast and powerful" and believe it will be of great benefit to perfecting his political philosophy theory.
Both of them met in the King's Office at the Dionian Palace with an urgent desire.
Plato was not tall and strong, and was very different from the traditional Chinese literati's handsome and elegant image. As a young king who created the powerful Kingdom of Dionys, Davers had no big ties with the term "handsome and magical martial arts".
But neither of them are ordinary people and do not look at each other with the mundane attitude of "judging people by their appearance". After looking at each other, Plato first said: "Dear His Majesty Davers, I came here from the port and found along the way that there was a big difference between the citizens of Dionys and other Greek city-states-" He paused for a moment, saw Davers showing a curious look, and then said: "You don't have beards, are you doing this on purpose?"
Davers did not expect Plato to ask such a question as soon as he spoke. He subconsciously touched his naked chin and said with a smile: "This is because the people of the Dionians have realized that growing beards is not a good thing in their lives over the years. When our citizens fought against the enemy, they found that the beards were too long and easily grabbed by the other party, causing injuries and even losing their lives. The doctors at Dionian Medical College found that after research, they found that the beards were too many and too long. If they were not washed frequently, some small things would breed inside that we could not see, causing us to suffer from diseases. However, frequent cleaning would consume a lot of our energy and time, so it would be better to shave them completely."
After hearing Davers's statement, Plato subconsciously stroked his thick beard on his jaw and pondered: "So, the Dionians advocate practicality? For this reason, are they even unwilling to follow the ancient Greek tradition?"
Davers smiled and said seriously: "We Greeks' understanding of the environment and nature gradually became clear and enriched over time. Scholars in ancient times certainly could not compare with us today. Therefore, many of their views and understandings are simple, even wrong... So we must inherit the good Greek tradition; but why should we keep it? Just like other city-states lock women at home, while we, Dionia, give the women in the kingdom more freedom and equal education. Don't you also call for the city-state to implement gender equality in "The Ideal Country"?!..."
Davers's words made Plato think while listening, but he did not respond directly, but asked: "Since your Majesty, you said you should inherit the good Greek tradition and abandon the bad, then you become kings and turn the Dionysian Union into a kingdom, right? Is it right to think that the royal system is better than other political systems?"
Davers also did not answer his question directly, but looked at him and said seriously: "I have read your "Ideal Country". I do not agree with your view that 'only philosophers are the best rulers of the city-state'. Even letting philosophers rule will only make the city-state worse!"
When Plato heard this, his eyes opened, and then he quickly returned to calm. He asked in a more intense tone: "Why does His Majesty the King think so?"
Davers said calmly: "We Greeks call philosophy the 'study of love for wisdom', a profound knowledge that explores the evolution of heaven, society, the world... all things. Those who can be called philosophers must devote all their energy to it in order to gain their own insightful insight into the world. This is not an easy task. So where can he have extra time to govern the country?! Look at me here-"
Davers pointed to the mountains of letters, proposals, and information piled up on his desk..., sighed and said, "This is the Kingdom affairs I have to deal with in one day. In addition, I have to recruit officials to discuss and participate in the discussion of various proposals of the Senate... During this day, I have almost no spare time. Even when I meet you, I have to plan in advance and take out half an hour of free time. Moreover, this will cause me to go home later tonight, otherwise some resolutions cannot be approved in time and will only be pushed to tomorrow. This not only means a reduction in administrative efficiency, but also may mean that the lives of people in a city or region of the Kingdom will be greatly affected...
You see, if he wants to be a good king, he has no time to study philosophy, and can only devote most of his energy to complicated city-state affairs. The same is true for the chief executives of various cities in my kingdom. Their power is equivalent to that of the rulers of other city-states. They must work diligently and down-to-earth to solve the practical problems of their cities. If anyone spends his energy on studying and doing nothing, he does not need to replace him, and the local councillors and civil servants will protest to him..."
"Your Majesty, your diligence amazes me!" Plato first praised, and then said calmly: "Since you have said that philosophy is a knowledge that loves wisdom, then wisdom is not something you can get by sitting there and dreaming. It has to be refined from practice. When you encounter difficulties in handling government affairs, think carefully, discover the rules, and finally find a solution, and even refine this method into a system and generalize it, isn't this the result of using philosophy!..."
"It seems that all the chief executives in the kingdom and I are philosophers, and this philosopher is too easy to be." Davers retorted softly.
Chapter completed!