389. Hammer to Hammer
Science and Technology Park.
"Hello. Who is it?"
It was a strange phone call, but Lu Zhou was still as polite as usual. Especially the number belongs to Hangzhou. Who knows if it is a boss of Ma?
It is better to be low-key and polite.
"Hello, it's Luzhou. I'm Ma Yun."
Lu Zhou was stunned awkwardly. He really wanted to come to whatever he wanted, but he didn't know what Boss Ma was here to ask him for.
However, as long as it is not like Ma Huateng, who comes up and says straight to the acquisition, Lu Zhou can still speak politely.
"Hello, Mr. Ma, I have been long-lasting and long-term."
Ma Yun laughed loudly on the phone, "I'm so angry about this. I thought you young people are not much like us now."
This is impossible to answer...
Lu Zhou, Fang Qiang, Cheng Xuyuan and the like, then they must get along casually. It is not a big deal to discuss it privately, and it is not a big deal to move.
But you guys from Internet 1.0 will pick up one of them and you will be older than you in your teens and twenties. Lu Zhou will have to be polite.
Lu Zhou could talk casually with Lin Xin, Rebs or Zhang Xiaolong. But like Ma Huateng, he had contacted him several times, but his aura was inexplicably inconsistent, and he was really not excited. To be honest, when he first talked, Ma Huateng directly offered a price code and said he wanted to acquire it. Can this tm be tolerated? Anyway, Lu Zhou couldn't come.
As for Ma Yun? That's the first time I'm really not familiar with him. To say that I've been revered for a long time, that's really the case. The godfather of this chicken soup, no Chinese man has ever heard of him brag about a few awesome words in the future.
This is what I say in my heart.
Lu Zhou coughed slightly, "Mr. Ma. What's wrong with your call?"
Ma Yun was easy-going, and he smiled, "I wonder if you have heard of Yun Feng?"
Lu Zhou had some thoughts when he heard this. It seemed that the old horse was also running. He thought for a while and said, "I know a little bit. It is an investment fund initiated and founded by you."
Old Ma Yunfeng is really a big deal, so he won’t talk about it himself. What kind of giant Shi Yuzhu, Focus Media Jiang Nanchun, New Hope CEO, Seven Wolves boss...
As for investment, although Alibaba is definitely the majority, the fund has no direct relationship with Alibaba Group. Not to mention the number of investments, Mengguang had just started two years ago, and group purchases were in full swing at that time, Yunfeng invested in Gaopeng.com.
This Gaopeng is not the originator of group buying in the United States, but is set up by a joint venture between Penguin and Gaopeng.
To put it bluntly, is this tm investing in the enemy?!
Of course, I must have thought about it this way. Is it okay for a group of entrepreneurs to be financially free and have money in their hands? It’s nothing to work together to start a fund and do some investment.
After all, Ma Yun has the final say in Yunfeng, and it is probably the manager who is making decisions.
Ma Yun smiled on the phone, "Mr. Lu. If you don't say secret words, I will say it bluntly. I'm just here to be a matchmaker and set a line for the two families. What's going on, it's up to you to decide."
When Lu Zhou heard this, he remembered the first time he worked with Bao Bufan. At that time, Meng Guyun was looking for financing, and Alibaba also submitted an offer at that time. The veto was a sure thing, but now he remembered that Yunfeng must have had contact with him at that time. It was obviously done by Ma Yun, and Lu Zhou directly suppressed it without thinking too much.
Lu Zhou said, "Okay, Mr. Ma. I will inform Meng Guyun of this matter and arrange for someone to communicate in advance."
You're welcome, Lu Zhou thought.
But Lu Zhou thought about it again, it was a strange thing to say. Yun Feng's manager wanted to join Meng Guyun, and he was so itchy that he wanted to lead the old horse to lead the line. So how much do you want to come in?
Especially Alibaba Cloud is also doing it, so it must be too short of money. It is really a loss of money to be a lobbyist.
But if you change your thoughts, it probably means that Yunfeng's independence is there. Think about it, the rich just use some money to invest. If they just invest in Alibaba's own ecosystem, the rich are willing, and fund managers will probably be in trouble.
Lu Zhou continued, "But, Mr. Ma, I'll talk more."
Ma Yun laughed and said, "You said."
Lu Zhou, "Everyone knows that cloud computing has its roots, but if you really want to invest, you should also understand that Mengguyun will be in a loss state in the next few years."
After hearing this, Ma Yun was just happy. Is there any reason to find fault with him and push money out?
If he loses money in cloud computing, he still has a clear idea.
Mengguyun has achieved revenue of 150 million in 10 years and 1.7 billion in 11 years. Alibaba Cloud has achieved revenue of 1.2 billion less than Mengguyun in 11 years.
You know, AWS, which started cloud computing, had only had $500 million in revenue last year.
Just half of this company will drive people in two years. What's going to be worth it in two years?
It doesn’t matter if you lose money now, you will have hope in the future! So what if you invest a little private money?
The gap is here, and Alibaba is sure to chase it, but because the gap is there, when Yunfeng's management told him that he was matched with Meng Guyun, Ma Yun himself was not disgusted.
Ma Yun smiled and said, "Mr. Lu, everyone understands it. This Yunfeng's manager will seize it. In addition, I will take this opportunity to communicate with you again."
Lu Zhou said politely, "You said."
Ma Yun said, "Ali Cloud has not entered the Menggu Cloud Computing Open Alliance. However, Alibaba Cloud has been continuously participating in many of Menggu Cloud's open source projects. I think that in the middle, Menggu Cloud and Alibaba Cloud should be able to reach some substantial cooperation to jointly promote the evolution and development of some cloud computing technologies."
After hearing this, Lu Zhou did not think too much. He said directly, "You can Mr. Ma. This is a win-win cooperation. Meng Guyun is very willing to do such a thing. Later, I instructed Meng Guyun's technical department to let them communicate directly with Alibaba Cloud."
There is no loss in this matter.
First, for open source things, Meng Guyun has made projects that are impossible to come up with key parts, which is not like the Seven Star Open Source Longan Ai. Second, open source does not mean free. Alibaba Cloud really takes some things to use, so there is still money to pay. As for the end, cooperative research can speed up the pace, and both sides can save some R&D costs.
With just this statement, Luzhou has no reason to refuse.
Ma Yun heard a hearty laughter on the phone, "Okay! Happy cooperation, Mr. Lu."
Lu Zhou also laughed and said, "Happy cooperation."
Although this is not an important matter?
Ma Yun continued, "There are only two things. If there are too many, I won't disturb you much. Let's contact you later."
Luzhoudao, "Thank you. Goodbye Mr. Ma."
"Okay, goodbye."
After Ma Yun finished speaking, a beep sound came from the phone, and Lu Zhou hung up the phone.
Lu Zhou smiled for no reason and said that he was too idle, but it was really true. After all, two things really aren't very important.
But after the two horses were in contact, the feeling was quite different.
Ma Huateng did it directly, but Ma Yun was picking some not-so-important statements.
There is no chance to live in peace with Ma Huateng. As for Ma Yun, it really depends on what trick he plays later.
Not to mention, starting before the New Year, the various actions of WeChat payment were actually very large, including phone bill subsidies before the New Year, red envelopes during the Spring Festival, and ground promotions for Menggu promotion after the New Year. But at this moment, Lao Ma Yun did not mention a word. It can be regarded as a pursuit of friendly communication.
Of course, Lu Zhou also knew that it was right to say that it was friendly, but it was appropriate to say that Ma Yun was arrogant.
Cloud computing, Alibaba Cloud is really not as good as Mengguyun. The revenue of last year alone is several orders of magnitude different.
But when you talk about e-commerce and payment fields, even Ma Huateng dares not say that he can fight. Although conflicts among several companies are not uncommon.
In 10 years, Alibaba's e-commerce revenue in China has reached more than 3.5 billion yuan, and it doubled directly to more than 7 billion yuan in 2011. Judging from Alibaba's growth in the first quarter of this year, this part doubled again in 2012, and it would be quite easy to directly reach 15 billion yuan.
Lu Zhou thought about it and said that during the Menggu developer conference last year, Ma Yun was making trouble with Alipay, and he was also "driven the tiger". Just a month ago, Alibaba had already made a privatization offer.
On the one hand, Ma Yun is also afraid that the equity issue will lose control.
It’s a strange thing to think about it. Alibaba’s business has been rising rapidly in recent years, but investors in Xiangjiang are stunned and don’t buy it. It’s probably a “historical problem.”
When Xiangjiang was listed, Alibaba's cake was large enough. If the revenue and profit at that time were based on the price-to-earnings ratio, the price-to-earnings ratio reached an astonishing 300. Investors were crazy, but after crazy things, there were problems with excessive premiums. There were not so many Bezos in the world. Even benchmarking, it had to be true.
This has been going on for several years, and when Yahoo shareholders exploded, Alibaba has not been very happy in the past two years.
But no matter what, Alibaba has been making changes every year in recent years. When Lu Zhou knows that Alibaba will go to the United States next time, Alibaba will directly receive a dazzling profit data of billions of dollars, and then gather a more reasonable 50-60 times of pe. Alibaba, with a valuation of more than 150 billion US dollars, is in the limelight.
Lao Ma’s confidence is not a piece of paper.
Looking at Menggu again, in the past two years, e-commerce was 0, third-party payment trace amount. It is nothing more than that in the past six months, Menggu Payment has pushed the transaction flow of WeChat Pay to an extremely high volume based on the user base of WeChat Pay.
But it is really overestimated to compare with Alibaba. However, if you say you are underestimated, it will not be possible. Luzhou is not sure whether Menggu can grab a piece of meat on e-commerce, but if you say that WeChat Pay is a matter of payment, you have to get it at any cost.
Speaking of the Spring Festival, Lao Ma didn't say anything about red envelopes, but he must be nervous about it. He probably was waiting for the next Spring Festival to get involved in red envelopes. He was going to Alibaba's doorstep, so he would not have to do one fight?!
"These people, tsk tsk tsk tsk..."
I am so scared that I like to come up and hammer at any time.
Then just hammer, there is no other way.
Chapter completed!