In terms of personal relationships, Zhu Gaoxu and Hu Yi trust each other.

After the deposed prince, the party fell down|After Taiwan, Hu Yi was first appointed as one of the ministers at the level of the ministry. Hu Yi also abandoned all public and private prejudices, followed the wishes of Emperor Zhu Gaoxu, and presided over the matter of whitewashing Qi Tai.

But at this time, both of them were cautious. Even if Zhu Gaoxu said in advance that he would "not admit his words when he went out" and "no sin in everything", the inexplicable barriers could not be completely eliminated.

Humanity is to accompany the king as if he is a tiger. Hu Yi is so cautious, so it is natural. Can Zhu Gaoxu fully trust his ministers? How could he expect a scholar-official like Hu Yi to truly understand him?

At this moment, Zhu Gaoxu actually sat down on the floor. The floor on the attic was made of wood, and the floor was cleaned very clean, but the wood in early spring was still cool. Zhu Gaoxu adjusted his posture and sat there in a comfortable and lazy look.

Hu Yi didn't say anything about such "losing etiquette". He has never been a pedantic person.

Zhu Gaoxu sighed and said in an easy-going tone: "I thought about the fact that I deployed the arrest of Jianwen and his son in Yunnan back then, and the involvement was not simple. I first controlled the three yamen in Yunnan, and then sent people to pick up Hu Butang. This matter was done quickly and accurately. Hu Butang had personally experienced it, but it was not my boastfulness."

Hu Yi said: "The emperor acted decisively and meticulously, and he was impressed by me."

Zhu Gaoxu said: "Hu Butang conducts open and secret investigations and conducts that complicated matter, and also shows great talent. You sit down, and I raise my head and talk to you, and I am very tired."

"Minist obeys the order." Hu Yi sat down on the floor with his legs crossed his legs. The king and his minister turned into a strange form to meet each other.

Zhu Gaoxu said again: "Later, something happened suddenly in the court. I was caught off guard and forced to raise an army. The entire "slaughter of crime" was very difficult, but there were traces to follow.

In addition to correct decisions on tactical strategies and luck, the integration of civil and military affairs in the old palace of King Han was also the key to victory. At that time, the civil and military affairs in the King Han Palace had a very consistent belief and understood it simply. Failure would mean no return. What else is a stronger and more universal belief than the desire to survive?"

He changed his subject, "Now that I have ascended the throne, I found that the complexity of governing this country is far more than controlling a war. The diversity of people's hearts is even more unifying. Even if the standards of Neo-Confucianism are used to regulate beliefs, I still feel powerless."

Hu Yi said: "The emperor is worried and I feel that I am in a state of empathy. I only regret that I am in a high position but I am in a state of corpse and can't share my worries. I am really guilty."

When Zhu Gaoxu heard this, his face was a little surprised and relieved: "Tell me how to empathize with me."

Hu Yi pondered for a moment and said, "When the emperor mentioned his trip to Yunnan, I remembered that I had a review of becoming an official under the Three Holy Towers of Dali. At first, I studied for the imperial examination and had a passion for helping the people. When I succeeded, I retired to the countryside. Unexpectedly, I worked hard to protect myself and make progress. The official became bigger and bigger, but I felt more and more powerless."

Zhu Gaoxu listened carefully and asked, "How to help the people, can you say more specific?"

Hu Yi said: "I came from the countryside and knew that the people were suffering, hunger, cold, hardship, illness, death, and all kinds of sufferings only need to make people feel painless. Even Buddha cannot save all living beings. Only those who have entered the world have some effect, that is, to be an official. The government is clear and the hearts of people are transformed, so that the common people will not be hungry or cold in a good year, and will not be buried in the wilderness in a disaster year, and even change their children to eat."

"I believe in the ideals of Hubutang. Those who only have selfish desires, no ideals and public intentions cannot lead the wards like Hubutang and gain people's respect." Zhu Gaoxu encouraged.

He then frowned and said, "Relieving pain is indeed a pragmatic ideal. However, the country and people are sailing against the current, and if they do not advance, they will retreat. If they just want to maintain the most basic stability, they may be the most important thing in the long run, and they will only gain more than they can get."

Hu Yi wanted to speak but stopped, and suddenly asked, "The Lord wants to implement the new policy?"

The conversation suddenly stopped, and the monarch and ministers in the attic maintained a strange posture and fell into silence.

Zhu Gaoxu finally broke the quiet and said, "I know that many ministers do not trust me in their hearts. Maybe they can't make a reason themselves, but they will feel very insecure, such as my biological uncle Xu Huizu."

Hu Yi was a little embarrassed and hurriedly said, "The emperor treats people with sincerity, which is more sincere than most subjects."

Zhu Gaoxu said: "The court needs a large number of people to govern, whether it is the new policy or the old policy, what kind of people should be used? In the past dynasties, there have been royal family members who have divided their ceremonies, foreign relatives are dictatorial, and military generals are in power. How can the result be learned from history? The harm is that the country is completely out of control. The literati and civil servants are inseparable from the emperor system.

Those who rule the world must be talented people. From an intellectual perspective, civil servants can stand out from millions of scholars and are themselves elites in this world. Even if I rely on force to seek justice, I have sufficient reasons to reach trust and cooperation with civil servants. Some problems are not people, but deviations in ideas."

He paused for a moment and continued: "The philosophy of our dynasty's life seems to be always a circle that can be recycled. The current imperial examination system was formulated by Emperor Taizu, Kaien Ke is also the emperor's power, and Confucian Neo-Confucianism is also the idea advocated by the court. How could the emperor blame too much for civil servants selected in this way?"

Zhu Gaoxu glanced at Hu Yi and expressed more kindness and compromise: "I also want to increase the income of officials. Officials who hold the power of the dynasty should not be regarded as a tool by the nobles like the Yuan Dynasty, but should share more things justified."

Hu Yi said: "The sage is virtuous and has the style of an ancient sage king."

Zhu Gaoxu smiled and said, "The world does not require faith, but we cannot blame the morality of officials too much. After all, it is always just an ideal pursuit to ask common people not to pick up their own relics and not to close their doors at night. We must always ask gentlemen to be selfless. We should improve the system more and be more pragmatic and rational, rather than relying solely on human feelings and morality."

Hu Yi nodded thoughtfully.

At this time, Hu Yi finally stopped talking clichés. He suddenly returned to the main topic and talked about Jie Jin: "I dare not claim that Xie Jin has no selfish intentions at all. However, Mr. Hu criticized Xie Jin for seeking fame and reputation, and he thought it was a bit unfair."

Zhu Gaoxu said calmly: "Please continue to talk Hubutang."

Hu Yi said: "Xie Jin has indeed gained great fame because of his courage. People like him may feel that they have just done what they should do, said what they should say, and their speeches are in line with the integrity of the saints' teachings. Otherwise, Xie Jin could have grasped the right measure more appropriately, rather than putting himself in a state of dismissal many times.

I cannot determine the inside story. However, Xie Jin's actions can be praised by many civil servants and scholars. The reason must be ignored. It can be seen that literati in the world believe in the words of sages, and many people have their true intentions, at least they have a certain sincerity, hoping to maintain benevolence, righteousness and morality. If all officials disobey the situation, how is the current situation in the court?"

Zhu Gaoxu comforted his hands and praised him, but instead encouraged Hu Yi's remarks.

Seeing this, Hu Yi said: "All things in the world are harmonious, and selfishness is yin. Officials in the court have more or less selfish desires and the reality of forming cliques and preservation is probably the truth."

Zhu Gaoxu nodded and said, "This is also a problem that will inevitably arise when the administration of officials relies too much on morality. Because there is no clear standard of reward and punishment, officials lack security. Of course, they must subconsciously form party members in various names and pay too much attention to human relationships."

At this time, he finally made up his mind and said, "Xie Jin has no corruption and abuse of power. Although he is inappropriate, it is understandable. I decided to let it go this time."

Hu Yi bowed and said, "The Lord's heart is as broad as the sky and the sea."

Zhu Gaoxu stood up from the ground, patted his robe a few times, and breathed a sigh of relief: "I have benefited a lot from talking to Hu Butang today."

Unexpectedly, Hu Yi stood up and asked again: "What do the emperor think about the matter of the sutra?"

Zhu Gaoxu nodded and said, "Three times a month, I will follow your request."

Hu Yi worshipped: "The Holy One and the Holy One!"

Zhu Gaoxu looked at his face and finally couldn't help saying: "I think that although the current system is stable and mature, the biggest problem is that it lacks the driving force to move forward."

Hu Yi was stunned for a moment, and seemed unable to understand immediately, so he had to respond: "Yes."

Zhu Gaoxu went downstairs and surrounded by palace servants, he still went to Rouyi Hall in a sedan chair. There he met the eunuch Wang Gui and the imperial concubine Miaojin.

He said to Miao Jin: "Since the 'Jingnan Battle' and the 'Battle of Crime', due to the change of imperial power, the Chinese civil and military in the court have a tendency to intensify conflicts. I am afraid that I will fall into endless internal friction in the future. The grudges and struggles between Xie Jin and Hu Guang will not be beneficial after the expansion, so I will be a peacemaker. At the same time, it is also a posture between the monarch and the ministers. Hu Guang is more obedient, but Xie Jin is disobedient, so I will reconcile!"

Miao Jin thought for a moment and said softly: "The Lord is going to be a matchmaker?"

Zhu Gaoxu shook his head, picked up the brush on the table, and wrote a few words: Peacock flies southeast.

He handed the unfinished paper to Wang Gui and said, "Please give my calligraphy to Hu Guang."

Wang Gui bowed forward, took it carefully with his hands, and said, "I will receive the order."

Zhu Gaoxu kept his promise and began to talk to Miao Jin about the plot of summoning Hu Yi today. Because Miao Jin's position was not on the civil service group, Zhu Gaoxu was less taboo and said it more thoroughly. He also gave some insights and narrations on the "circle" of the centralized operation of the Ming Dynasty.

Miao Jin obviously didn't realize in advance that there were so many things. Her eyes looked at Zhu Gaoxu, and she also had a little more respect and appreciation.
Chapter completed!