929 Project No. 10 needs to start prototype trial production (to follow the wind, Dameng 3/5)
Xie Kaike doesn't believe this.
I wanted to ask, but I thought it was the 132 Factory's own internal affairs, so I did not continue in the end.
"They want to expand the production line." Zheng Yucheng knew very well what Factory 132 was thinking. "The Air Force has orders for the J-7 every year. Although the foreign trade is not very good now, there are dozens of aircraft every year. And we are building factories there, and they know that they want to tie us together."
"If this is the case, just say no? Where has Deputy Director Zhao gone?" Xie Kai was very curious.
Zheng Yucheng and the others should know.
"I went to help the Egyptians build a factory." Wang Guilin said, "When I walked from us, Factory 132 wanted to expand the production line at that time, and I couldn't determine where our fighter jets were produced, and I had no money in my hands..."
"Are we going to produce in Shenfei?" Xie Kai asked curiously.
Chen Fei has the J-8 production task. Although Xiao Zi Ri is not very prosperous, at least he won’t be hungry.
"Everyone is short of orders. Chen Fei has been looking for us. I hope we can cooperate. We poached a lot of them at the beginning, but we couldn't favor one or the other..." Zheng Yucheng said with a wry smile.
There are many units in China that can produce J-7 and J-8 fighter jets.
The Air Force has not many orders. If you want to upgrade equipment and study new technologies, you cannot leave orders.
"How many orders did Chen Fei give before?" Xie Kai asked, "even if we didn't poach people from Chen Fei, we must support them."
Although Xie Kai never likes Shenfei and Factory 132, no matter what, Shenfei is the aircraft design and manufacturing unit with the strongest technical strength in the domestic aviation system.
Su-27 and Su-30 must be bought back, and Chen Fei has invested a lot of energy in these fighter jets.
It is even more difficult for Su-27 and Su-30 to complete the localization of Factory 132 and 611.
Now, we must support the development of the entire system across the country, otherwise there will be no supporting facilities at that time.
"The order of 80 aircraft was given 20 aircraft parts to be manufactured," said Zheng Yucheng.
Xie Kai shook his head when he heard this, "It's too few. If the orders from the United States are implemented, give them half of them. Anyway, we won't be able to assemble and produce factories ourselves."
"The production quality of their side is not easy to control!" Wang Guilin explained the reason. "When the J-8 was transported to not many, the Americans found that the parts of the two fighter jets could not be exchanged, and the tolerance was very large, and almost every fighter jet could not be used on other fighter jets."
The domestic standardization of production has only begun in recent years.
"Hasn't the seven-special technical agreement started to be promoted nationwide?" Xie Kai said in confusion.
The seven special technical agreement began to be promoted from aerospace systems in the late 1970s. At that time, the 7905 technical agreement was promulgated in 1979 and was mainly aimed at aerospace electronic components.
In the 1980s and 1984, a new 8406 technical agreement was formed.
The 8406 technical agreement is required to be promoted in the military industry nationwide, and not many companies are implemented.
Since its emergence, Xie Kai asked 404 to be implemented in accordance with the seven specialized technical agreements required by the 8406 technical agreement, especially the large number of outsourced spare parts are produced by different supporting units, so this technical standard becomes more important.
So now 404 is ready to use the seven-special technical agreement, and even the supporting factories will lose their supporting qualifications if they do not follow the seven-special technical agreement.
The national defense orders have decreased. The annual production orders in 404 are much more than the production tasks received by the supporting enterprises from their superiors. Even if they are unwilling to do so, they have to execute them. As long as the products that do not meet the requirements of the drawings are scrapped and returned, not only will the processing costs be settled, but the material costs will even be deducted from the processing costs.
In this way, any military-industrial enterprises that have business dealings with 404 are forced to follow the requirements of the seven special technical agreements.
Logically, Chenfei's 112 factory should have been promoted long ago.
"Their efforts to implement the seven-technical technical agreement were not very strong before. They only began to pay attention to it until they learned what standardization was in the United States. Now they are just starting to promote it..." Wang Guilin said worriedly.
404 In order to make logistics easier, all the same type of spare parts in the same series of products must be interchangeable.
In other words, the tolerances required by the drawings are absolutely not allowed to be any excess.
If it is out of reach, it will be scrapped.
"Before, they helped produce a batch of parts of the Y-10, with the scrap rate reaching 60%. The processing fee is not enough to deduct material costs. They have been plaguing this matter all the time." Zheng Yucheng was also helpless.
He also wanted to share more part of it for Chen Fei.
But Chen Fei did not follow the rules, which was very fatal.
If the exported items cannot guarantee the interchangeability of parts, and if there is a problem, the parts need to be replaced and cannot be installed, they must be reprocessed according to the size in China, which will have a very adverse impact on exports.
"Where is the 132 Factory?" Xie Kai remembered that the J-7 was not effectively solved until the 1980s because of production quality problems.
Super-7a has not been delivered so far, so don’t have any problems until after delivery.
"The seven-special agreement was implemented here a long time ago. In addition, in order to arrange idle personnel, our base has trained hundreds of experienced personnel as quality supervisors, and the control is relatively strict." Wang Guilin introduced.
For Wang Guilin and others, they prefer to cooperate with Factory 132.
Although Factory 132 was originally a backup unit for Factory 112, it has done a lot of work in recent years.
Coupled with the cooperation between the two parties in design and prototype production, the 404 management is more inclined to cooperate with Factory 132.
"If Chenfei can meet our quality requirements, we have to give more. Factory 112 and Factory 132 are the aviation design and manufacturing units with the best technical conditions in our country. We cannot promote the development of the entire industry, but we have to let these two companies meet our supporting facilities." Xie Kai thought for a while, and felt that he could not only give all the funds to Factory 132.
Although the two future main fighter jets, J-10 and J-20, which are completely independently developed in China, were created by Factory 132, Shenfei is an absolutely indispensable and important unit in China's national defense industry.
Without Shen Fei, the localization of Su-27 and Su-30 cannot be completed.
Without Shen Fei, J-11, J-15, and J-16, these twin-engine heavy fighters will not appear in China's defense sequence.
As for the inappropriate stealth fighter jets like the J-31, Xie Kai really doesn't like it.
If there were no J-20, that might be a helpless choice.
Xie Kai was unhappy with Chen Fei because of the emergence of fighter jets like the J-31.
Now we cannot favor one over the other because of personal preferences. Those who are rich first should drive those who are rich later. Let us all get rich together to achieve a well-off life and contribute to the national defense cause, right?
Xie Kai doesn't know how much Super-7b can eventually develop.
Xie Kai also had no idea whether the stealth fighter could appear in advance.
You can't be successful now, but you're so arrogant. You have to develop everything yourself. How long will it take?
If you can avoid detours, there is naturally no need to waste time and energy.
When Xie Kai and his group discussed, Xiong Hongyuan and others also gathered together, but were just accepting Long Yaohua's criticism.
"...If you want to expand the production line, you can discuss it directly with them. You have to do this. No matter what your purpose is, it will affect the entire national defense industry! Just focus on this domestic point, learn from others' 404, find orders internationally, not only solve the problem of its own development funds, but also bring a lot of foreign exchange to the country..." It's not Long Yaohua who wants to get angry.
But what Factory 132 does is too unfavorable to unity.
Xiong Hongyuan lowered his head and did not dare to speak.
The same is true for other 132 factories.
"Chief, this is not that we only focus on our own interests. We need to upgrade the technical system, improve our technical strength, and support the development of the enterprise..." Li Wenzheng did not have that embarrassment, "Chief, why don't we give us project autonomy, we can raise funds for ourselves..."
"Give you project autonomy? You have introduced a lot of technologies and changed a lot of models of J-7. How many have you sold so far? Haven't you still run to the Air Force all day long and pestered orders?" Li Mingshan asked Li Wenzheng sternly.
He didn't plan to say anything at first.
"Chief, Project No. 10 now requires a lot of funds. Even with the over-7 verification technology, the prototype of Project No. 10 must start production..." Seeing that the leader got angry, Zhao Bin dared not say anything, and if they continued.
After all, isn’t it all for the purpose of getting Project No. 10 from drawings to physical objects in advance?
If there were crazy funds like 404, they would have already started producing prototypes to verify the technology.
"The technical demonstration work of Project No. 10 has been completed?" Long Yaohua was stunned.
This is an unexpected surprise.
"It has always been a design while arguing and designing. It has the Super-7 engineering verification technology, and the speed is very fast." Mr. Song, who is in charge of the No. 10 project, nodded. "At present, both avionics and radar systems, there are basically solutions, and more funds are needed to enter the trial production stage."
"Where is the engine?" Long Yaohua just knew that even the Super-7 was facing engine problems.
The performance indicators of the No. 10 project are much higher than those of the Super-7a. When the project was launched in 1984, it was clearly required to have the overall design idea and aerodynamic layout of the world's third-generation fighter jet development trend.
The use of high-thrust turbofan engines is a must.
There just happens to be no high-thrust turbofan engine in China.
"First use the turbofan-6g. The test data we have obtained at present is that the maximum afterburner thrust of the turbofan-6g in Dongfeng Power Plant has reached 138.3 kN, and the intermediate thrust exceeds 101 kN. Although the thrust-weight ratio is only 0.785, the maximum take-off weight of a single-engine fighter can also reach about 17 tons..." Mr. Song introduced.
Project No. 10 was originally based on the technical pre-research of the J-9 and other domestic projects.
The turbofan-6 was originally designed to match the J-9.
"17 tons? Isn't this similar to the technical indicators of Super-7b?" Long Yaohua felt a big head.
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