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683 Over $1.6 billion. Can Egyptians afford it?(1/2)

"8 million, 60 aircraft!" Muhanard gritted his teeth and quoted a high price he thought was absolutely.

Chinese people like to ask for prices all over the place.

Wasn't it the same when the J-7 was introduced?

"Mr. Minister, if this is the case, it will be difficult for us to continue to negotiate. Both of us have already had their positions and bottom lines on the surface. In order to reach an agreement, we have been constantly lowering our requirements and relaxing some technology exports. But you have not shown much sincerity..." Xie Jianguo looked at the Egyptians and really didn't want to continue.

8 million US dollars per aircraft also has great profits.

But after providing the production line, the profit will be greatly compressed.

For fighter jets produced in Egypt, China can obtain part of the technology usage fee and profits from the production of key components, which generally reduces the profit by at least 40%, which is already very annoying.

In order to obtain more funds, 404 has relaxed some not-so-advanced technologies, especially some machining factories and metallurgical factories in the aviation manufacturing industry.

The Egyptians wanted to get more.

"This price is already very high. The same type of trainer aircraft in Europe, the United States and the Soviet Union have been proven by the market and have been successfully developed for many years, and the price is around 10 million US dollars..." Muhanard said, "Although it has some combat capabilities, the combat radius is too small and the ammunition load is too small..."

This is the disadvantage of light fighter jets.

At present, almost few countries study light fighter jets.

After decades of Cold War, the fighter jets of the two major camps developed rapidly, especially after the second generation aircraft. The fighter jets of the two major camps of the West and the Soviet Union tended to be large-range, high ammunition load, and multi-purpose ideas, which made some new models become offensive and in-depth strike capabilities.

Light fighter jets were gradually abandoned because of their poor combat capabilities.

Even if the price is low, not many countries are willing to equip it.

Especially those countries where national defense implements strategic offensives.

"It's true. Minister, this is just a light fighter. The biggest feature is not combat capability, but the cost of training pilots. Light fighters are just consumables for medium and heavy fighters with more powerful combat performance... Even MiG-29, the market price is more than US$20 million, and the F-16 is more expensive..." Xie Kai said.

Egypt is now seeking to introduce f-16.

Maybe it has been introduced.

But the f-16 thing has advanced performance, but its price is not affordable by ordinary countries.

Not only is the purchase price high, but the maintenance cost is also unaffordable for ordinary countries.

"This fighter can match the high and low levels with the F-16 purchased by your country. Although the ammunition load capacity is small, the purchase price of one F-16 can be purchased at least three more than-7a. Your country's production line starts to produce. The larger the output, the lower the cost will be..." Xie Kai talked about this from the perspective of the Egyptians.

Why haven't the Egyptians thought about this problem?

"8.5 million US dollars, 70 aircraft!" The Egyptians almost gritted their teeth to give this condition.

"We cannot accept this price. Mr. Minister, the funds required for a fighter aircraft from design and development to the finalization of supporting ammunition are huge..." Zheng Yucheng shook his head.

Xiong Hongyuan and others from Factory 132 were scolded in their hearts when they heard this.

It's shameless.

People of 611 are even more despised.

The test flight has not started yet, a lot of technical information and design of the Super-7a fighter is derived from the J-9.404's investment in this project will definitely not exceed 200 million yuan.

Even if the test flight finalization is completed, the costs of the J-9 and other projects are put aside, and the three projects of the Super-7a, Super-7b and No. 10 projects share various R&D costs, it will not cost 500 million.

This order alone can recover all the R&D costs, and even have balances.

He actually said shamelessly that they have invested in R&D costs!

Didn't look at it, everyone robbed it?

But no one came out to find awkward at this time.

Neither of the two sides reached an agreement from September 10th to after the National Day.

After learning about the project situation in detail, the Pakistani returned to China and prepared to let the domestic air force leaders and other relevant personnel come to understand the situation, and then the contract will be finalized.

Even Ibrahim has determined his itinerary and will lead a delegation to China to negotiate the procurement of anti-tank missiles and new tank armor-piercing missiles after the National Day of the 37th National Day.

As a result, the Egyptians were still arguing with China.

In the school, Chen Mingshan's anger had reached a point where he could not control it.

But Xie Kai was helpless.

He proposed that Zheng Yucheng and the others talk to the Egyptians that they would go back to school, but the Egyptians disagreed.

I can only accept the angry scolding of the department director every once in a while...

"US$10 million, 80 aircraft." After another round of suspension, the two sides privately raised friendships, told about friendship and other things, and started negotiations again. China made concessions again. "40 of them were produced by China, and the remaining 40 were provided by China and assembled in the production line in Egypt..."

This is the minimum condition that China can accept after negotiation.

It is also the bottom line that Xie Kai set up from the beginning.

The Egyptians also knew that this was almost the bottom line of China. They did not directly bargain, but bound other conditions.

"We can convince the country to accept this price. However, there is one thing we hope you can agree..." Muhanard said seriously.

While speaking, I kept observing the reactions of Chinese personnel.

This requirement is actually a bit too much.

Zheng Yucheng and others were indeed angry, and the Egyptians were too arrogant.

Xie Kai suppressed his anger and looked at Muhanad, "Mr. Minister, what else do you have to ask?"

"359 tank production line!" The Egyptians no longer implicitly, "We need 359 tanks, and the cost cannot be too high..."

"Tell me earlier!" Zheng Yucheng immediately became happy.

The Egyptians are giving money to 404, how can they be unhappy?

"But..." I thought of his loss of composure, Zheng Yucheng quickly restrained himself, "Minister, exporting tanks is not a big problem, but the production line..."

"If you do not agree to the sale of the production line, we refuse to accept the agreed price for the introduction of Super-7a." Ariyaf's attitude is very firm. "In terms of tanks, each vehicle is priced at 1.95 million US dollars, we purchase 300 vehicles! You provide the production line..."

"1.95 million US dollars? Sir, are you kidding?" Xie Kai kept scolding Mubara in his heart.

It was definitely this grandson, otherwise the Egyptians would not have given such an embarrassing price.

It’s a terrible thing to ask China to help build assembly plants and provide technical support.

"No, we know very well how much your country exports 359 tanks." Ariyaf said, "This price is already very reasonable..."

"No!" With Zheng Yucheng and the others still not coming back to their senses, Xie Kai firmly said no.

If it is just a purchase, this price is barely acceptable.

The output has increased and the cost has been reduced.

The problem is that the other side asks China to help build a tank factory.

"His Excellency Minister, this price is 300 vehicles, and it is impossible to provide production lines. At the end of 1984, your country's Defense and War Products Department announced that it would invest $216 million to develop your country's main battle tanks. In November of the same year, the General Products Division of the Teledain Continental Automobile Company of the United States received a contract for your country to transform the Soviet-made T-54 tanks for your country. The contract will be implemented in the United States, right?"

Zheng Yucheng and others didn't know what Xie Kai said.

The Egyptians were stunned.

Are there any Chinese people concerned about this?

"Just to transform your country's thousands of T54 tanks, there is a budget of US$216 million in design costs." Xie Kai continued.

Zheng Yucheng and others finally understood that the Egyptians came to buy fighter production lines, which was included.

From China to the transformation technology and production line of the 359 tank, this is their purpose.

The 59 tank is a copy of the Soviet T54a tank.

The 359 tank is essentially an improved model of the 59 tank.

This kind of tank is the most produced tank ever in the history of the world's tank development. According to incomplete statistics, the number of t54/55 tanks produced worldwide reaches 86,000 to 100,000.

This is a staggering data.

This is a truly successful century tank, no doubt about it.

It is also because of the existence of this kind of tank that fighting with Western countries in the Middle East directly prompted the birth of the Western m60 tank.

The 359 tank is almost the ultimate version of the 59 tank modification.

Xie Kai's plan was also created by integrating the many modifications of the 59 tank, which had the most modifications and the longest service time in China.

There are quite a lot of these tanks in the Middle East.

Getting the transformation technology will allow tanks in all Middle Eastern countries to improve their performance several times with little funding.

Egypt happened to have good relations with the countries in the Middle East that once purchased Soviet tanks.

After understanding all this, I also understood the Egyptians' purpose of obtaining the 359 tank production line.

How could Xie Kai tolerate them just purchasing 300 tanks and obtaining technology for less than $600 million?

"Do you know our plan?" Muhanard asked Xie Kai with a twitching corner of his mouth.

"On the one hand, your plan is to use the US m60 tank components to transform the T-54 tank to enhance combat capabilities; on the other hand, it is to make the Egyptian Soviet-style T-54 tank and the US m60 tank have the greatest versatility of components. Right? Or, your country's plan is more appropriate to describe it as 59 Patton?" Xie Kai's words were full of evil taste.

This is a tank that he once played in a game called "World of Tanks", 59 Patton.

That is, the combination of the Chinese 59 tank and the American Patton tank.
To be continued...
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