2037 Varyag 70 billion, but the price you quoted back then(1/2)
"70 billion? Why don't you grab it?"
The big-haired people were angry about Xie Kai's offer.
That's just a modification of an aircraft carrier.
Including US dollars, it is almost $9 billion.
The cost of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers is no more than US$5 billion.
Too dark!
This offer scared Li Qingming and others.
If an aircraft carrier is really so expensive, the Navy will probably be scared by this price and dare not want an aircraft carrier.
Qi Zhiyuan really wanted to remind Xie Kai that the price was too outrageous and would scare Damao away.
"Thank you, if it's such a price, it's hard for us to reach a cooperation agreement." Nikolai Mipodorov also looked angry.
Fortunately, he thought he had a very harmonious relationship with Xie Kai.
When I was drinking before, this guy said he was a friend and a brother.
Do you treat friends and brothers like this?
"Thank you, you must know that the Varyag was built successfully, and even included sea trials and other expenses, the total cost was no more than US$1.2 billion. Even if inflation was included, it was not so outrageous."
People who are too big to be angry are not allowed.
The other party asked for a price of $9 billion for an aircraft carrier that year.
"Everyone, this is the offer from your country back then. At that time, we wanted to buy it, but you gave it this price..." Xie Kai looked calm in the face of the other party's anger.
Indeed, this price is the price quoted by the other party at the beginning.
From the initial 50 billion to 70 billion!
Everyone was stunned.
Everyone here knows this.
After all, they really wanted to make a big profit on this.
They didn't expect that Xie Kai would quote based on the previous quote.
If so, they might as well complete the transformation by themselves.
"Thank you, this offer is not at all sincere. The Varyag hull has been built, and it only needs to be rebuilt and reinstalled." In the delegation of Damao, Alexander Yurdashev, the head of the navy, reminded Xie Kai that the project was not particularly large, "and we will carry out the sea trial ourselves."
Hudong Shipyard only needs to help complete the installation and configure various systems at the same time.
If it weren't for the inability to complete the entire system, it would be impossible for them to find Hudong Shipyard, which does not have much experience in building aircraft carriers.
Nikolai Mipodorov took a deep breath and said to Xie Kai seriously: "Thank you, it was not our quote back then. Moreover, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine could no longer complete the construction of the Varyag. There was no continuous order, and all the costs of improving infrastructure were included..."
A shipyard that can build an aircraft carrier will cost only one or two billion US dollars.
He knew that the other party was asking for a huge price to avenge the revenge of that year.
"Yes! Besides, we are working together to build, and relevant units in our country will bear a large part of the transformation cost..."
"Does the supporting projects we build cost no more? Everyone, you know that the investment cost of our supporting systems is also very high..." Xie Kai still smiled.
"If this happens, there is no need for us to continue talking."
Although Damao is very needed for this aircraft carrier, they do not have enough funds.
The 1.5 billion US dollars they get from A San is the most they can pay.
What's more, you can't pay it all at the beginning.
After A San gave the money, he had to make progress, right?
You can’t do nothing, delay it for a few years, and then increase the cost at the cost, and say that the money is not enough, so let Ah San continue to make money, right?
It has to be transformed to a certain level before they can continue to make money.
"In fact, the cost of modification is much greater than that of brand new construction! Before Varyag was auctioned, all the equipment was dismantled, and the power system inside was destroyed... Re-renovation requires a large part of it to be dismantled and the structure is adjusted..." Xie Kai didn't have to insist on such a high price.
Although Damao's economy has recovered a little, it cannot support such huge expenses.
If they had such a sum of money, their Kiev-class aircraft carriers that had not been in service for a long time would not be sold.
"Indeed, the cost of dismantling is also very high." Nikolai Mipodorov looked at Xie Kai, "If this cooperation cannot be achieved, I think we will not be able to cooperate on the project at Red Star Shipyard. According to our Navy's Vision Development Plan, at least four amphibious assault ships are needed."
Big Mao had nothing to do.
Xie Kai's price is outrageous.
So I just used the cooperation project of Hongxing Factory as a bargaining chip for negotiation.
Whether it is the modernization transformation project of the Red Star Shipyard or the cooperation between the two parties in the field of design and manufacturing of large-tonnage amphibious assault ships, the other party cannot refuse.
Xie Kai frowned.
Even Li Qingming and Gu Baonong looked at Xie Kai anxiously.
There is no advanced manufacturing technology for large amphibious ships in China.
This thing is also needed for the future development of the navy.
Only with stronger technology can the development of Hudong Shipyard be faster and more stable.
The other party has revealed that after the cooperation between Hongxing Shipyard, the two parties jointly invested to jointly develop a 20,000-ton amphibious assault ship.
Hudong Shipyard is very concerned about this matter.
There are too many projects in 701 and it is impossible to worry about amphibious landing ships.
Over the years, the technical team of Hudong Shipyard has also been developing towards a deeper design field. Many designers have helped with the training of 701 and participated in the design of 001 aircraft carrier, 0.55 million-ton large-scale destroyer, and 052 ASUS.
"So, this actually doesn't require you to quote, but first based on the business allocated by both of us, and then perform cost sharing..."
Seeing Xie Kai fall into silence, Nikola reminded Xie Kai that this is not simply about buying it with the other party, but about cooperating and improving it.
Taking the Varyag modification project as an opportunity, the two sides integrated their technical teams and started working together, and then began to cooperate in amphibious assault ships at the Red Star Shipyard.
Under such circumstances, it is naturally impossible to continue to talk.
"The other party's meaning is very obvious. It is to be prepared to cooperate with us. Even if our navy needs it in the future, it may have to be produced through the Red Star Shipyard... This is not very beneficial to the future development of Hudong Shipyard."
After coming down, Gu Baonong directly raised objections.
In their opinion, all products must be able to be manufactured by themselves so that they can feel safe.
This is the characteristic of the managers who came through their era.
What is international cooperation, there are hidden dangers.
There is only interests between countries, but no long-term friendship.
"Looking at Damao's current situation, you will know that they want to use our funds and experience to regain the manufacturing capacity of aircraft carriers... At that time, our supporting systems will even be incomplete due to different divisions of labor." Li Qingming did not agree with this.
For them, it is best to allow Hudong Shipyard to build all types of warships.
It is best to build a nuclear submarine.
Become the world's most powerful large-scale warship manufacturing unit.
But now, once we cooperate with Hongxing Shipyard, both parties will assume part of it and inherit so many advantageous areas of the Russians with Da Mao. Once we have an order, we will be stronger.
This will have serious constraints on the development of relevant domestic fields.
What they wondered was that what they said was that Damao bought the Varyag after they transformed, but now it has become a cooperative transformation, and then it has to cooperate more comprehensively.
There is no problem in cooperating with the Varyag.
As a result, in the end, the cooperation became a large shipyard that could compete with the entire Hudong Shipyard, and also cooperated to build amphibious assault ships.
How can they accept it?
How difficult is it to be able to reach Hudong Shipyard today?
Xie Kai also knew the result.
But he knows better than anyone else that cooperation is the best.
Instead of speaking first, he looked at Qi Zhiyuan and Yue Lin.
These two people did not object.
Let's hear what they say first.
"Actually, we don't need to worry about this. They have much better experience in materials, design, etc. than us. It's not just our shipyard in China. We are the only one who cooperates with them..." Qi Zhiyuan could see clearly, "and our large amphibious assault ships in China are blank..."
In Qi Zhiyuan's view, such cooperation outweighs the disadvantages.
"Actually, Xie Kai understands better than us. Even if they have the ability to re-manufacturing aircraft carriers, so what? Without perfect industrial supporting facilities, we don't provide them, can they still build them? With perfect industrial supporting facilities in China, they can't affect us at all..." Yue Lin also spoke.
He also supports cooperation.
404 has developed to its current level, which is different from before.
They have the confidence to cooperate with other units and are not afraid of being eaten by their partners during the cooperation process.
To be continued...