"Let's not talk about this for now, let's talk about Il-76 and Il-78. How many have they done? The Air Force needs this. Whether it is a transport aircraft unit or an airborne unit, the Y-8 is too small, and there are not many soldiers and equipment that can be carried at one time..."

Commander Lin no longer talks about Tu-160's affairs.

The Air Force lacks a lot of equipment.

From fighter jets to transport aircraft, to tankers, and even early warning aircraft.

"The Y-15 has completed its first flight. According to the research team, there is still a long way to go to mass production; the early warning aircraft transformed based on the Y-10 cannot meet the use needs of the Air Force..."

General Lin directly expressed the needs of the Air Force he represented.

At present, the equipment needed by the Air Force is simply not available in China, and these equipment are almost all invested by Hongqi Group.

"Since you can get it, you can transfer it directly to the Air Force. Otherwise, for the sake of the development of the troops, we may consider purchasing second-hand equipment from Russia or other countries with Il-76 transport aircraft..."

The attitude is very obvious.

There should be an idea within the Air Force to purchase Il-76.

After all, the role of large military transport aircraft is much stronger than that of the Y-8.

Especially what the Gulf War has shown has allowed the military forces of various countries to learn from.

"Chief, if the troops need it, they can buy a batch of emergency first. After all, this is not a large number..." Xie Kai ignored Zheng Yucheng and Wang Guilin and kept winking themselves and answered General Lin Hu very seriously, "Il-78, we have not purchased it. The three in the mercenary group are what they need to use. We only have the earliest Il-76 in our hands, which was given to me by Sha Damu."

"Xie Kai, our Y-15 has already made its first flight. Although it is much worse than expected, as long as it continues to improve, it won't take too long..." Bai Yanjun couldn't help but remind Xie Kai.

Zheng Yucheng and others have retired, but he has not yet retired.

If you buy the Il-76, it will have a serious impact on their prospects for the Y-15 that they invest heavily in development.

The Y-10 has invested a lot, and up to now, there are only more than twenty orders.

The R&D investment has not been recovered.

If the Y-15 does not have orders from the military, it will be impossible for the base to continue to increase investment.

"Purchase a batch of second-hand Il-76 at a low price, which meets the needs of national defense construction. Since the Y-15 cannot reach the level of mass production in a short period of time, it is possible to use several imported heavy transport aircraft to explore the training and use of related equipment..."

This trip to Ukraine changed Xie Kai's ideas a lot.

There are many good things in Ukraine, and it is impossible for them to get them away.

"The technical information in the Black Sea Shipyard can be quietly taken out by a craftsman's director when the factory cannot continue to develop, and what he and the participants get is only three million US dollars..."

Xie Kai knew that it was difficult for Bai Yanjun and others to accept it.

404 Since there is one, the Air Force should purchase domestic ones and support the domestic research.

Instead of buying imported ones.

"The Soviet Union is what we must learn from. If we don't pay attention to their experiences and lessons, it will eventually lead to such a result. In the end, there is nothing. We 404 is actually no different from the path we took..." Xie Kai had to emphasize this point.

Even though he is not willing to let the big guys see their abilities and opinions.

These views are actually the development process of China in the next few decades.

"In the past two years, hasn't the base been adjusting its industrial structure?" Wang Guilin also frowned.

Before the meeting, they did not go to Xie Kai.

According to their vision, Xie Kai should support the Air Force in purchasing related products from the 404 base.

In addition to super maneuverability, the technical performance of Super-7 A and Super-7 B is not very excellent. When the Air Force spent a lot of funds to introduce the Su-27 full set of production technologies and production lines, Xie Kai did not support the base to strongly promote the Air Force, which is reasonable.

How can we continue to develop large military transport aircraft if the Air Force does not purchase them?

"It is indeed being adjusted. However, at present, military technology research, development and manufacturing still account for more than 70% of the entire base industry. Once there is a problem with the base, the development of the entire country will even be dragged down..." Xie Kai did not care about the face of Bai Yanjun.

All of them are very familiar with each other.

"The order is required for Ka-15." Bai Yanjun didn't care.

It is just emphasized that the Y-15 requires an order.

Seeing that 404 was quarreling inside, it was difficult for the other big guys to express their opinions.

Commander Liu was worried that if he continued, today's meeting would not achieve their goals at all.

"Xie Kai, aren't you going for the aircraft carrier this time? The 707 light aircraft carrier built by the Hudong Factory for the Thai Navy has been launched and has now entered the outfit stage. Such an aircraft carrier is indeed not suitable for the future development needs of the navy..."

Only by changing the topic can the debate stop.

At least, just give them the opportunity to communicate internally.

General Lin also knew that there was also controversy within the Air Force.

On the one hand, it supports the introduction of Il-76, and on the other hand, it hopes to continue to wait and give domestic military transport aircraft more development opportunities.

No one can support it without an order.

The total investment around the Y-10 is at least more than 2 billion, and most of this money is invested separately by 404.

If you can't take it back, you can't continue to invest.

"Yes, haven't you brought all the carrier-based aircraft back? The Su-27 is too heavy to be able to get on the 707 aircraft carrier. The Thai Navy's positioning of their aircraft carrier is only used for patrol and maritime disaster relief, etc., carrying various types of helicopters, which can meet the needs of use..." Commander Lin took the initiative to speak, naturally he did not want them to quarrel inside.

"What happened to theft of aircraft carrier data in the Black Sea Shipyard? If there is no information..." Zheng Yucheng also spoke.

He also couldn't understand what Xie Kai was thinking for a day now.

Of course, I was also curious about how Xie Kai and the others used to get the information out.

Until now, Xie Kai said nothing except asking the Hudong Shipyard to mobilize relevant technical experts, especially Russian translators.

I don’t know when the drawings will come back and what channels to come back.

Everyone looked at Xie Kai with curiosity.

"In fact, that batch of information was not produced more than a year ago, but it started in more than a year. The Varyag and Ulyanovsk have a total of more than 2.7 million copies, while the core technical drawings and process documents are only 400,000. We only made this batch... As for the core information of the Glorious Class missile cruiser, it was an accident."

Xie Kai explained in detail how to get these technical information from the Black Sea Shipyard.

As early as when Liu Dongsheng entered Ukraine, he had already begun to plan this matter according to Xie Kai's request.

In the end, it took a lot of energy to get in touch with the relevant person in charge of the Black Sea Shipyard.

Originally, Liu Dongsheng wanted to set up information about the archives of the Black Sea Shipyard, but it was not easy to start there. After listening to Xie Kai's advice, Liu Dongsheng changed his target and met Petrov, the director of the crafts office through some noble ladies who had a relationship with him.

Petrov didn't have such an idea at the beginning.

However, as the Soviet economy became increasingly difficult, the Black Sea shipyards received less and less funds.

If the funds are small, the first thing that is owed is the wages of people in the logistics system and their treatment is reduced.

Under such circumstances, Petrov's daughter who studied in France could not get life guarantee at all. It was very bloody. Petrov's daughter owed usury...

Liu Dongsheng is the God of Wealth, and the top leaders of the entire Ukraine know that it is known.

Petrov needed money in advance.

Liu Dongsheng took the initiative to contact him, so it would naturally be easier to hook up.

Since a year and a half ago, Petrov and four confidants have gradually transferred the technical information in the craft room...

However, none of these technical materials were transported back and remained in Ukraine.

Only Liu Dongsheng knows where exactly is.

Through various complex operations, only Liu Dongsheng knew where he was.

Now, there is one more Xie Kai.

"Where did those technical information go? The news sent back there said that the Ukrainian Intelligence and Security Agency was looking for it wildly, and the CIA and the KGB were intervening..." Li Mingshan did not hide his knowledge of this, "There is no in An-225's belly, and there is no in the Il-76 in the Tu-160 bomber formation..."

Although the military's intelligence agencies have less intelligence collection capabilities abroad than the CIA and the KGB, it is still okay to know these news.

Moreover, this was suggested by Xie Kai at the beginning.

Of course I don’t worry that Xie Kai has any ideas.

"Yes, where did those technical materials go? There is no problem transferring them quietly. But if you want to transport them from there, there are more than 400,000 drawings, which is also a lot." Zheng Yucheng was also curious.

For them, no one would suspect that Xie Kai could not get this back at all.

When the 404 base formulated such a plan, the main goal was to develop the Varyag aircraft carrier and related technical information.

Commander Liu was also very curious.

But Xie Kai has always been holding everyone's appetite, which is so hateful.

He directly used the provocation method, "Xie Kai, can you not get this drawing, right? Although the Hudong Shipyard has improved the 707 aircraft carrier, helped the Thai Navy build a ship, and helped the Argentine Navy build a keel, our navy does not need such an aircraft carrier..."

The 707 aircraft carrier has been built for many years, and even seven months later than the expected launch time due to improved design and integrated supporting facilities.

The longer the time is, the more the Navy you have been paying attention to.

In the end, there is only one conclusion. The decision to dismount the aircraft carrier was correct.

Light aircraft carriers are not suitable for the future development of the Navy.

Whether Varyag’s like this is suitable for the navy needs to be understood in terms of performance and function before knowing.

After all, the development of the PLA Navy is not a simple Soviet model, but a plan to combine the Soviet and American models to develop something that suits you.
Chapter completed!