1387 What the Soviet Union can provide, I can also provide in America
The Soviets were so angry.
Xie Kai thought to himself that something was wrong and hurriedly explained to Diminov.
"We didn't know the situation before, so the Americans took the initiative to come to us and offered to provide us with technical support. You also know that China and the Soviet Union had not conducted technical exchanges and cooperation for a long time. In recent years, technical cooperation between China and Western countries has gradually increased, and many domestic projects have cooperated with them. Now many people believe that Western technology is more suitable for us..."
China has indeed increased its technological cooperation with the West over the years. If it is not for such a thing, the Soviet Union will not be in a hurry, right?
Seeing that the Soviets' expressions were much more relaxed, Xie Kai continued: "In fact, the reason why we proposed to purchase basic raw material technology is that we are unwilling to cooperate with the United States in this regard... Introducing your equipment technology and introducing raw material technology will reduce a lot of trouble."
The 404 requirement to introduce raw material technology was something the Soviets had not considered before.
After Xie Kai explained, it was not too much.
The Ukrainians did not answer immediately, but instead expressed their need to ask about the attitude of the Soviet government.
This time, the negotiation between the two sides was not only in the medium- and long-range air defense missile system, but the general framework agreement was considered to be negotiated.
According to the list originally provided by Ukraine, some basic technologies, material technologies and production processes proposed by China are added.
Once these are obtained, China's material technology will also make great progress.
After Xie Kai and others left, Vitor saw that others were also worried and said bitterly: "Once China is given raw material technology, the obstacles they have suffered in the development process will no longer be a problem, and it is not a good thing for us..."
The Chairman of the Military Industry Committee clearly realized that giving basic technologies such as materials is far more effective on China than giving technology worth tens of billions of rubles.
Diminov looked at the Chairman of the Military Industry Commission and felt that this concern was completely unnecessary.
"Is there any other way now? China is clearly going to get basic technology, so it may have been planning before... Damn Americans came to join in the fun and took the initiative to provide them with technology. We are still waiting for their delegation... If we disagree with China's request, it may eventually affect the contract of 10 billion rubles. This matter must be reported to Moscow as soon as possible..."
Moscow is already anxious about cooperation with China.
After the United States intervened, the Soviet government hoped to reach an agreement quickly.
China requires basic raw material technology, which is easier for the Soviets to accept than technology in cutting-edge manufacturing.
When China did not intervene in the United States, the lion made a big statement, put forward more advanced technical requirements, and did not take advantage of the arrival of the Americans to significantly reduce prices.
This also proves that China does want to reach this cooperation with the Soviet Union.
"The Chinese side's meaning is very obvious. Only by giving these materials and technologies can the price of medium and long-range air defense missile technology be increased..." Yuriav reminded everyone.
There is no problem with other projects, and there is no discussion on the technical cooperation between the two missiles left.
Material technology is bound to this.
After the discussion, the Ukrainians directly reported the current situation and progress to Moscow and sought the attitude of the Soviet government.
The Soviet government had relatively large restrictions on the entire cooperation, requiring the total contract amount to reach 10 billion rubles.
In addition to some top technologies, Ukraine has few ordinary technologies that can sell 10 billion rubles.
Top-level technology, any number of them can be enough for this number.
The various material technologies required by China, whether they are titanium alloys, nickel-based high-temperature alloys, aviation aluminum materials, high-temperature powder metallurgy technology, etc., are available in Ukraine.
All basic technologies are designed to provide supporting facilities for Ukraine's aviation manufacturing industry and large warships.
The United States has been paying attention to the progress of negotiations between the Soviet Union and China.
But I was unable to understand the inside story of the negotiations and was always anxious.
After discussing a lot of other technical cooperation with some Chinese departments, there has been no substantial progress, and the Americans are very anxious.
The US delegation was not in the mood to negotiate common technology with other Chinese departments.
Projects that China wants to introduce American technology are all key technology projects and core basic technologies, and Americans will definitely not sell them.
Under such circumstances, the two sides naturally cannot reach an agreement.
Relatively speaking, Americans prefer to negotiate with Hongqi Machinery Group.
The cooperation of Hongqi Machinery Group is related to the United States' further understanding of China's real technical level and the study of the influence of China's mysterious rising unit.
The representative unit of China's military system is naturally important.
In the hotel, Sheldon Radillon looked at a group of big guys and explained awkwardly, "Everyone, it's difficult for the intelligence system to work. I personally walked around the streets of China. No matter where I went, countless pairs of eyes would stare at me. Even the old lady selling popsicles on the roadside was full of vigilance... No matter which street she walked, there would be an old lady wearing a red armband on her arms around her. She seemed to provide help to me enthusiastically, but in fact she was staring at us and could not act at all..."
As the new director of CIA, Sheldon Radillon originally believed that Chinese intelligence was not difficult to unfold.
He has not achieved much results before, because his ex-girl John Otto is not doing his job well.
I personally took a walk on the streets of China and felt it, and then I found that China was called an intelligence black hole by the world's intelligence agencies, which is not an exaggeration at all.
Whenever you go, some bored old men will appear. The old lady comes up to ask him where this foreigner is going and what he is doing...
Even some children's eyes were full of vigilance and refused to answer any of their questions.
In such an environment, where can I get the information I want?
Even strangers in the alleys in the capital of China, even if they are both Chinese, will be asked...
After learning about the situation, Sheldon Radillon was somewhat impressed by the intelligence network that CIA had deployed in China before, although all of them were caught in one fell swoop.
In an environment like China where people across the country have anti-espionage awareness, it is commendable that others can develop intelligence personnel in China.
Secretary of State James Addison Baker saw everyone looking at him and said with ease, "Please rest assured that through the exchanges with relevant Chinese departments in the past few days, those departments have expressed their requests for cooperation with us. For the cooperation between the two sides, they promised to provide greater convenience and make every effort to promote Sino-US technical cooperation..."
The Secretary of State believes that China's attitude shows that the delegation will complete the task easily.
Alex did not agree with the Secretary of State's statement, but was too lazy to argue with the Secretary of State.
We are about to negotiate with China, and the departments we cooperate with have little to do with the departments we are in contact with now.
The Secretary of State clearly did not realize this.
Alex's understanding of China's export policies and analysis of various export projects undertaken by Hongqi Machinery Group found that it seems that the units cannot manage those departments at all.
Otherwise, China's advanced weapons and equipment such as 359 tanks, Feidun-359 missile defense system, avant-garde individual air defense missiles, etc. would be impossible to export, let alone such a large number.
According to the consistent principle of the Chinese, even if the equipment lags behind the international level, exports are absolutely prohibited as long as it belongs to China's advanced level.
As long as it is sold, the technical parameters and real combat performance of these equipment will be inferred even if they are inconsistent with the models used internationally.
The enemy will develop stronger weapons and equipment in a targeted manner based on the internationally obtained parameters.
Isn't it the same between the United States and the Soviet Union?
This is true for any country's military industrial system.
Seeing Alex's expression full of disdain, Ansnio asked him directly, "Col. Are you still worried? You have also contacted many of their department leaders these days, and you also know that they are looking forward to their cooperation."
These days, the US delegation has contacted various Chinese counterparts respectively.
The US delegation was naturally warmly welcomed in China.
Logically, Alex should be relieved.
"Deputy Minister, we can only know the real situation after negotiating with the Chinese. Until now, we have not officially contacted the people of Hongqi Machinery Group. We are really as urgent as we have revealed it. Will we not send personnel to contact us and communicate? We have been in China for a few days. Where are the people of Hongqi Machinery Group?"
Only then did the other bigwigs in the delegation realize the problem.
After arriving in China, people from Hongqi Machinery Group did not appear.
Alex looked at the big guys who were deceived by the appearances shown by China, and his heart was deeply helpless.
"We don't know how the Sino-Soviet negotiations are progressing, and we can't even know any news. To prevent China from cooperating with the Soviet Union, we must provide enough benefits to enable China to measure who can get greater benefits in cooperation with. One hundred billion rubles seems to be a lot for both sides, and at some point both sides have far more courage than any country! Therefore, we cannot stop their cooperation, and we even need to provide China with full loans..."
Alex looked cruel when he spoke.
One hundred billion rubles are not much for the Soviet Union, but more for the Chinese government.
Americans also require China to purchase at least 10 billion yuan, which will put more financial pressure on China.
To delay China's progress, a loan must be provided.
The US delegation has reached a consensus on this and has made a request to the country.
"We can't be too anxious now, otherwise China will ask for prices everywhere, which is extremely unfavorable to the negotiations." Ansnio reminded Alex.
The delegation has always been very anxious, but China's main negotiating team has not appeared. What should I do?
These days, we have contacted other Chinese departments to let them know that China is short of money and any department is short of money.
In order to cooperate, they all applied for domestic loans to China again.
He was more anxious and lost the initiative during the negotiations, so the US delegation did not mention the loan to China.
The US government has given up a lot of initiative by actively providing military and technical cooperation to China and leading a delegation to China.
Chapter completed!