1309 The furious Soviet high-level
Seeing Chelvakf's inquiring eyes, Scobolin could only nod in embarrassment.
His expression also proved that what Xie Kai said was not false.
The Soviets were desperate.
If Western countries know about the matter, it will not only be a huge shame for the entire Soviet aviation field, but it will also bring great hidden dangers to the security of the Soviet Union.
It will even make the entire military furious.
In order to solve the series of problems this brought about, the Soviet Union had to invest more to solve these technological shortcomings.
The Soviet government had long lost money!
The proud Su-27 fighter jet originally thought that it was just a mistake made by a pilot who was poisoned at the Paris Air Show, but it turned out that it had a big flaw in itself.
Xie Kai is now completely satisfied with the Soviet people's reaction.
Bai Yanjun looked at Xie Kai with a complicated expression.
He asked Xie Kai in a low voice, "Xie Kai, how do you know these things? Since you know these problems, why do we still need to purchase and introduce technology?"
Xie Kai couldn't tell Bai Yanjun that he saw it online.
Nowadays, the Internet is just beginning to start.
Xie Kai once did not know about the problem of Su-27 chondrosis.
Once I saw a video where Su-27 and the domestic J-10 performed in the air at the same time. The J-10 was completely running around in the air and was extremely lively.
The Su-27 just flew smoothly and didn't do much maneuver, which was completely inconsistent with its reputation.
You know, the Su-27 is the first third-generation machine in the world to perform super-motorized actions such as Cobra maneuver.
As the main force of the Chinese Air Force, the Su-27 and the domestic J-11 have never even performed large maneuvering movements when they appeared many times. They just flew smoothly and took a few laps to go down.
After the domestic equipment was later, problems must have been discovered. I also know that several high-intensity maneuvering actions would cause the fighter to disintegrate.
The cartilage disease on Su-27 was also inherited by the domestic J-11, and it was not completely solved until the J-11b.
The J-16 is the "real Su-27" that the Soviets wanted these days. Not only did they lose their defects, but their combat capabilities were also improved several times, becoming a truly multi-purpose advanced comprehensive fighter.
Whether it is the J-11b or the J-16, they are all equipped with the most advanced domestically produced active phased array radar.
This kind of radar is beyond the performance of any radar that had been imagined in the Soviet era that was installed on the Su-27 fighter jet.
On the Soviet side, it was not completely fixed until it was disintegrated.
At this time, Sukhoi should have completed a lot of preliminary work, and even the first prototype, the t-10m-1, the earliest Su-35 prototype, had already come out.
How do Xie Kai explain?
However, he had to explain to Bai Yanjun why he wanted to purchase such fighter jets.
"Uncle Bai, this fighter has considerable problems in performance defects and avionics systems. However, the aerodynamic layout and power performance are incomparable to us."
Bai Yanjun looked at Xie Kai in confusion, "It's not very useful to buy it back. How can you provide it to the Air Force if you don't solve these problems? With such a high cost, if you buy a bunch of defective fighter jets, aren't you afraid that the Air Force will mobilize all the fighter jets to bomb our base at that time?"
Bai Yanjun is definitely not a joke. Helping the Air Force buy such a fighter jet is completely a cheating Air Force.
The Air Force has not had much funding and cannot purchase several fighter jets a year.
If 404 uses such a fighter jet to them, it will occupy a lot of Air Force's replacement funds.
A Su-27 with a US$30 million can be equipped with 3 J-8ii.
Zhao Yujun's face was extremely difficult to see.
He was completely convinced that Xie Kai dragged them over to let them take the blame.
He knew better than anyone else what consequences would be caused by such an Air Force equipment.
Not only will the J-8ii fund be squeezed, but even the J-7 will be, it will not benefit the Hongqi Group's Super-7 project.
He immediately said seriously to Xie Kai: "Xie Kai, it is difficult for us to digest this fighter jet. The technology is too advanced. Factory 112 cannot handle it!"
Wang Chengfeng of AVIC also nodded to support Zhao Yujun.
"Indeed, this technology is difficult for us to digest. The funds required are too large. AVIC cannot get such a lot of foreign exchange."
Zhao Zheng even made it clear that the Ministry of Aviation Industry could not approve the introduction of such fighter jets.
Too many problems and too serious defects.
The Ministry of Aviation Industry cannot provide such a way to the Air Force.
Xie Kai had long anticipated their reaction.
It is not suitable to quarrel with them at this time.
"Everyone, although this fighter has many defects in its performance, its range and combat radius are still what we need."
Seeing that everyone was dissatisfied with it, Xie Kai was determined to refuse this fighter.
How can that work?
How much worry has I fucked in order to get Su-27?
When he first came into contact with the Soviets, he decided to introduce the production technology of this fighter. Even in the Super-7 project, he asked the design team to avoid the development of the Su-27 performance direction.
Only by introducing the Su-27 technology and with the help of the Soviets can we make up for the shortcomings in the design and development of heavy fighter jets in China.
Su-27 has many problems. Once these problems are solved, China's aviation industry technology can reach the international first-class level.
"The defects in Su-27 are all caused by the electronics industry level. As long as they are solved, there will be no problem." Looking at the few people, Xie Kai said firmly: "We need heavy carrier-based fighters."
The Su-27 just modified the wings and became a carrier-based fighter.
There is a big gap in this regard in China.
The aircraft carrier has started construction, and the work of the Super-7 boarding ship has not yet started.
Too many projects!
What's more, the combat radius of Super-7a is too small and the ammunition capacity is not enough. Even if it is on the aircraft carrier, it will restrict the combat capability of the aircraft carrier.
Everyone looked at Xie Kai and shook their heads.
For them, it is impossible for them to agree to introduce such a flawed fighter jet in any case.
Bai Yanjun just stared at Xie Kai without saying a word.
According to what Xie Kai said, there are so many defects that they may even disintegrate during high-speed flights, and there is no need for this fighter to introduce it.
Seeing that Xie Kai had not changed his mind yet, he warned him seriously, "Xie Kai, you know more than us how many performance defects this fighter has. I will not agree to use large amounts of foreign exchange to introduce a fighter production technology with too many defects. This will also have a serious impact on our projects."
The Super-7 project jointly developed by 404 and 611 has an increasing demand for funds. The introduction of Su-27 and 112 factory and AVIC will not take over, which will put greater pressure on 404.
There are not enough technicians and greater financial pressure.
Bai Yanjun has decided not to introduce Su-27.
Directly increase investment in the Super-7 projects in the country, especially the Super-7b with the Double-Shot.
Although the dual-shot Super-7b cannot compare with the Su-27's performance, it is at least much safer.
It is not easy to train a pilot in China.
If a fighter cannot be used safely, it will disintegrate at high speed. No matter how large the combat radius or the large amount of ammunition load, it will be useless.
Once the war starts, there is no need for the enemy to take action. If the enemy chases him twice, he will disintegrate himself...
This will be stung by someone.
When Chinese personnel discussed here, the Soviets also had a fierce debate.
The focus of the debate is about these issues mentioned by Xie Kai.
Misaviczovsky looked at Simonov with a frosty face, "Does the answer you gave have solved the intensity and all the defects? Why does it still exist now? Even from a Chinese person's mouth!"
Chairman of the Military Industry Commission, Ogre, also stared at Simonov with a gloomy face.
He also needs the other party to explain it to himself!
"You have failed our trust in you."
As the deputy minister of the Soviet Aviation Industry Department and the chief designer of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Simonov explained with a bitter face, "These defects have been improved now. As the young Chinese said, many designs are brand new and there is no problem with structural strength."
When Simonov was the deputy minister of the Soviet Aviation Industry Department, he experienced the problem of the disintegration of prototypes such as T-10-12 in the air.
The inference he gave was that the structural strength of the machine head part was insufficient and there were many defects.
In Order No. 137, signed on March 39, 1982, the Ministry of Aviation Industry concluded that there are serious defects in the structural strength of the fuselage.
After that, the entire Sukhoi began to strengthen the structural strength of the Su-27 on a large scale, and all the problems occurred were improved.
Seeing that the two bigwigs obviously didn't believe in themselves, Simonov said: "Both, we have improved all the latest models. The prototype only flew for the first time last year... The Chinese are saying this now, definitely to reduce the price."
Misaviczovsky looked at him and sneered, "They lower the price? Until now, the Chinese have not raised the price question. Can we think that our fighter jets are still flawed and cannot fly with bullets and oil, and carry out fierce maneuvers in the air?"
Chervakov and others were completely unable to insert their mouths.
In such things, many people do not understand the specifics and cannot change any results after they say them.
Simonov sighed and shook his head.
Today's fighter jets cannot maneuver at high speeds in the air at full load as required by the Chinese. If that happens, the Su-27 will really disintegrate.
"We must investigate strictly and figure out how the news was leaked!"
Ogre's face twisted.
Not only should we check the problem of insufficient strength and structure of the Su-27 fighter jet, but we should also find out how the Chinese know the defects of the Su-27 fighter jet.
Simonov frowned and said, "Can it be that some technicians revealed the defects of Su-27 when Chinese personnel contacted us before? But now these defects have been modified, but they don't know..."
As soon as Simonov said, Chervakov's face changed.
He was the one who took the initiative to contact the Chinese!
Moreover, the chief designer asked him to go to find the Chinese. He didn't know the problem himself, so how could he tell the Chinese?
Is this a fucking person to take the blame?
Chapter completed!