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1278 Additional conditions for buying Su-27

"I wonder how your pilot is doing?"

The embarrassing Xie Kai had nothing to say.

Xie Kai still respects Pugachev, an excellent pilot.

If it weren't for his accident, Cobra maneuver would still be Pugachev's first, and Su-27's first appearance at the Paris Air Show would still shock the whole world!

When he appears, history changes.

Moreover, Xie Kai also shamelessly asked the domestic team to create a super-7a that is not useful and has strong maneuverability and other fighter jets that are not good at performance, and robbed the honor that should belong to the Su-27 and turned the Soviet Cobra maneuver into China's dragon-raising head.

"Thank you for your greetings. Our hero Pugachev is out of danger. Those damn Western spies are too hateful!" Mikhail looked excited when he said this.

He deliberately aggravated the tone of the words "poisoning" by Western spies.

Tell the Chinese that the design of Su-27 is not problematic, it is all caused by poisoning Western spies.

The Soviet Union and Western countries are quarreling about this matter these days.

Mikhail was also helpless. If it weren't for the crash, Sukhoi wouldn't have been so passive. It was impossible for him to take the initiative to find the Chinese who had been rejected.

Whoever takes the initiative will not be qualified to provide conditions.

In fact, it was not Sukhoi who refused the Chinese procurement team, but the Military Industry Commission and the entire Soviet senior management did not agree to provide China with Su-27 fighter jets. When the Chinese visited the MiG factory, Sukhoi took the initiative to contact the Chinese inspection team.

Chervakov, business manager of Sukhoi's external public contact department, saw that the two of them had been talking nonsense and had not entered the topic, and he couldn't help but feel anxious.

Regardless of whether it complies with the rules, he spoke to Xie Kai and asked: "Thank you, I wonder if you are still interested in purchasing Su-27?"

Just to sell the Su-27 fighter jet to China?

Xie Kai's eyes lit up. He guessed correctly. The Soviets came to promote fighter jets.

Su-27, that must be obtained.

A confused look appeared on his face. He looked at Chervakov and frowned and said, "Comrade Chervakov, we are also fighter jet R&D units, not fighter jet procurement units. If you are willing to provide technology, there is still a great possibility of cooperation between us."

Sukhoi's people are very upset about the shamelessness of young Chinese.

Want technology?

There is no door.

It’s already very difficult to sell fighter jets, right?

"It is undeniable that the Super-7a performance is very excellent, especially the maneuverability shown at the air show." Chervakov did not deny the excellent performance of the Super-7a. After a turn of the topic, he said to Xie Kai: "Although the Super-7a has excellent air performance, it is impossible to be much stronger in terms of combat radius, range and bomb load due to the defects of the rd-33 engine itself."

"This is indeed a problem!" Xie Kai nodded with a smile.

The Soviets looked delighted.

As long as the Chinese acknowledge their technical flaws, it will be much easier to promote Su-27.

But Xie Kai immediately asked them: "Even if the range is short, the combat radius is small, and the ammunition capacity is insufficient, so what? At least we can make it ourselves. Once the Air Force is out of stock, it can produce it at any time! It will not be choked!"

The military industry is at this point.

Don’t be afraid that you are inferior to others when you are not as good as others when you are behind in technology, you must make it yourself.

Just like this time, if the Soviets did not provide engines, China's Super-7a would not be able to produce them.

The mainstream domestic fighter jets, whether they are the J-7 or the J-8ii, use turbojet engines that can be produced in China, for this reason.

If the Super-7a is also equipped with the Air Force, the Air Force will not agree to such a plan.

Hearing Xie Kai say this, Sukhoi's general manager looked at each other and saw their helplessness.

Everyone knows that what this guy said is different from what he thought. The Chinese Air Force absolutely needs the Su-27 fighter jet is so excellent.

It is impossible for the Chinese Air Force to continue to use a large number of equipment with a short combat radius and insufficient range.

According to the speculation of the technical team, Super-7a not only has a combat radius, short range, and insufficient ammunition load. According to China's technical situation, it also has many technical defects.

In the future, what the major powers’ air force needs to develop in the future is fighter jets with stronger comprehensive combat performance!

Xie Kai actually said no.

"Thank you, we really hope to cooperate!" Chervakov said with some disappointment. "Since you don't think there is a possibility of cooperation, then we will say goodbye."

The Soviets have always been tough.

Even if they take the initiative to promote equipment and are at a disadvantage, they will not be weak in their attitude.

In order to seek their fighter opportunities, China used all kinds of means, and even found people with good alcohol tolerance to go to the Soviet Union to fight for wine.

Now Xie Kai actually told them that the Chinese Air Force does not need their Su-27!

Obviously, I want to start the price and raise more conditions.

In this case, what's the point of talking about it?

The two of them immediately turned around and wanted to leave.

Xie Kai stopped them: "Both, wait a moment."

The two people who were about to leave stopped and looked at Xie Kai, "Didn't you say you don't need it? Since there is no possibility of cooperation, what else can you talk about? Everyone's time is precious, so there is no need to waste it on chatting."

Chervakov's face was full of fun.

I mean to tell Xie Kai that playing with that negotiation method is useless.

If Xie Kai cannot say anything constructive, they will leave immediately.

"Two, help you convince your Chinese Air Force to purchase Su-27. There is no big problem. We can also give up the manufacturing technology of Su-27. The price and cooperation conditions are easy to negotiate. However, we have a condition. If you agree, there will be no problem with our cooperation."

"condition?"

When the Soviets heard Xie Kai's words, their faces suddenly became unfavorable.

In the international advanced equipment trading market, only sellers who are in an active position have always put additional conditions on the market.

But now in negotiations with the Chinese, the young man in front of him actually puts additional conditions as the buyer who is in a disadvantaged position!

If it spreads, it will become an international joke.

The entire Soviet military industry will be ridiculed by the international community.

Even if the work is suspended in full, it cannot damage the national dignity of the Soviet Union for exporting fighter jets, and it is also the advanced heavy fighter jets that China urgently needs.

"You two are not really a difficult task. We just hope that you can convince the Soviet Union through influence and agree to export the rd-33 engine to us. This is a very cost-effective transaction and is not an excessive condition."

When Xie Kai came from Sukhoi, he began to plan this matter.

This is also impossible.

Since the Soviet Union has taken the initiative to deliver the Su-27, it is not an exaggeration to ask the Soviet Union to approve the export of the rd-33 engine through cooperation with the Su-27.

Although this may affect the cooperation with the Soviet Union regarding the Su-27, the other party will definitely have a higher price.

The demand for rd-33 engines is too large, and there are no related engines in China, so it can only allow people to gain more benefits.

Even if the Soviets did not agree to provide all orders, there would be no big problem.

It is completely possible to produce fighter jets while using the profits obtained from exports to invest in domestic engine projects.

The WT6 has entered the most critical period so far. Once it is solved, it can be used.

When Chervakov heard Xie Kai say that the rd-33 engine was exported as the basis, he frowned, "Xie, we are Sukhoi, not Migoyan. And we are in a competitive relationship with Migoyan."

Sukhoi and Migoyang have always been in a competitive state, and both sides have their own R&D systems and supporting factories.

The rd-33 engine proposed by Xie Kai belongs to the Migoyan system and was developed by the Krimov Design Bureau. It is also produced at the Chirnishev factory in Moscow, which is called the "Red October" factory outside.

In the Sukhoi system, the engines used have always been the al-31 engine developed by the Liurika "Saturn" scientific research and production consortium.

When the competition between the two sides reached a fierce momentum, they would not extend their hands into each other's system, nor would they agree to the other party reach into their system.

Sukhoi's fighter jets have never used Krimov's engines. Instead, the MiG-23 designed by Mikoyan has used the Al-21 series engines of the Liurica "Saturn".

Only once.

Although the conditions proposed by Xie Kai were not excessive, it made Sukhoi's people very embarrassed.

It can even be considered bad intentions.

"Perhaps, you can choose Saturn's al-31 engine?" Chervakov asked tentatively.

The Soviet senior officials disagree with the export of the al-31 engine to China, and even the other senior officials of Sukhoi would not agree.

After exporting the engine, the Chinese will be faster in the development of new fighter jets, and Sukhoi may lose more orders by then.

Xie Kai was deliberately making things difficult for them.

"If we choose al-31, our design needs to be greatly modified..." Xie Kai felt aroused, but he still shook his head and refused. "In addition, we are developing the same type of engine in China."

It’s not that he doesn’t want to get the al-31 engine, but the J-10 uses this thing.

But at present, the Soviet al-31 engine cannot affect the core turbofan engines of China.

With the Soviet engine, the national research and development is likely to be aborted.

The Soviets' contact with China did not make any substantial progress.

Xie Kai also told the Soviets about the core mechanism research in China. He did not have no purpose.

It was impossible for the Soviets to be unaware of the situation in China.

Xie Kai’s meaning is very obvious. You can’t let it go. When we succeed, we don’t need any one.

So, the Soviets left.

I don't know what the result is.

During the whole process, Bai Yanjun and Ge Minglang were involved. From beginning to end, the two of them said nothing and allowed Xie Kai to talk to the Soviets.

In fact, the conversation ended from the beginning and it was impossible to make progress.

No one would agree to Xie Kai's request.

China needs Su-27, but puts additional conditions!
Chapter completed!
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