1138 How about the 88-style that the troops can afford (He yihong3516 Dameng 4/4)
Xie Kai looked at Mr. Zhu in a bit incredible.
"How much does your plan cost?" Xie Kai couldn't figure out what plan Mr. Zhu and the others were going to make.
The domestic purchase price of the Type 96 tank behind is only more than 5 million yuan, while the early 99 tanks are only about 12 million yuan. The price of the 99 tanks behind is even higher, and the price of the 99 major modification is even higher. I don’t know the specifics.
In any case, it is much cheaper than the m1a3 in the United States.
"According to the current plan, too many electronic systems have been adopted, the cost will exceed 20 million, and the R&D cost will be higher..." Mr. Zhu did not say the specific plan, it was a confidential thing.
But the price can be said.
"It is normal for R&D costs to be high. Without large-scale production, the cost cannot be reduced at all. With more production quantities and mature technology, the price will be much lower." Xie Kai said.
This cost, converted into US dollars, exceeds 5 million.
Therefore, Xie Kai didn't think the price was too high.
"Even if the price is reduced by half, a tank will have to reach tens of millions, and the troops cannot afford to be equipped at all." This is what Mr. Zhu is worried about. "Otherwise, the 359 tank and the armored troops are obviously too envious of it, and they would not have purchased a battalion for testing."
As a weapon design team, it is not only necessary to design the most powerful combat weapons, but also to be able to afford the troops after designing them.
It is a waste to be placed in the army if the cost is too high.
Only when a large-scale war breaks out, in order not to destroy the country, will we crazily produce various weapons and equipment regardless of costs. At present, there is almost no such possibility.
"So, if you use the upper anti-stable image fire control system with your quotation exceeding 4 million, these three generations of tanks will not be affordable in China." Mr. Zhu said with a wry smile.
Their plan has actually come out.
But that cost made everyone feel that this solution was impossible.
Although the technical difficulty is high, it is not impossible for them to break through within ten years.
The key is that even if it is done, the troops cannot be equipped on a large scale. What's the use?
"Mr. Zhu, we are designing. I think at the beginning, we should not consider costs or something. That is what the leaders of the logistics department consider. What we need to do is technological breakthroughs. Only when the technology develops to a certain level can we choose more. The 359 tank is an obvious one. So far, there are three different performance levels, high, medium and low. The combat capability gap is not small... Even the lowest-end 359 tank is stronger than ordinary domestic tanks. There is no need to say much about the attack power of a 125mm tank gun; Chobam is in line with the defense of armor, and it will not be much worse. There are not many basic performance poor..." Xie Kai said.
He hopes that the 99 tank that the boss has created, the better the more advanced it is.
Only by having projects can we promote the development of other technologies in this field.
The 99 tank is the future king of land warfare. Although this thing is a target in front of the armed helicopter, as long as you don’t encounter someone flying in the sky, this thing is the king.
What's more, the 99 tank has gun-fired missiles, which is not powerless to the armed helicopters.
"The price of the lower anti-stable image fire control system can be reduced. If the performance of computers and other aspects is reduced, the cost price of a set can be controlled within 400,000." Mr. Wang, who has been silent, spoke.
Wang Xingqiao has always felt that the anti-stable image fire control system has better prospects.
Although Xie Kai has always told him that the future of the anti-stable fire control system is the future, he does not think so.
When we first met, Xie Kai raised the various shortcomings of the lower anti-stabilizing image fire control system without follow-up system, which initially hit Wang Xingqiao, the father of domestic tank fire control system.
Xie Kai knew that Wang Xingqiao had an almost paranoid love for the lower body, but he never expected that it was still the case now.
In the world, only China has studied the anti-stable image fire control system, and China's anti-stable image fire control system is only equipped on the 96 series.
During the production and research and development of the 96 series tanks, the superiors have a very clear requirement to maintain a low production cost.
As long as the design is considered, technological development will not be able to get to the forefront.
The personal preferences of Wang Xingqiao, the father of fire control, are easily affected by bad effects.
"Mr. Wang, we have discussed the rebellion of the upper and lower levels on the first day we met. There are indeed many advantages..." Xie Kai had to refute Wang Xingqiao's remarks.
But unexpectedly, it was interrupted, "We are studying and improving the shortcomings you mentioned before! After adding the follow-up system, many problems can be solved."
"What about the cost?" Xie Kai asked back, "If you install the follow-up system on the reverse side, it is better to use the upper side directly!"
Xie Kai really wanted to ask Mr. Wang what was the purpose of the opposition to the other side, so he didn't like it.
Since the base has collected the 201 Institute and has not interfered with any research in 201, it has only allocated funds to provide their research every year.
Once the lower anti-stable image fire control system is added to the follow-up system, the previous advantages of simple structure, high reliability and low cost will be gone.
"Xie Kai, let's talk about what you have to come down. Mr. Zhu is here." Zheng Yucheng was a little embarrassed.
Regarding the disagreement, come down and close the door and make arguing casually.
Isn't there anyone else here?
"It's okay, I'm just about to hear the details of these two types of fire control systems. Foreign information is kept confidential to us. The fire control system introduced from the UK before was only a second-generation tank. Currently, there are not many countries in the world that have developed a third-generation tank fire control system." Zhu Yusheng said with a smile.
I even felt a little unhappy with Zheng Yucheng.
People who usually ask 404 are hiding and do not introduce specific things.
If he knew the specific situation, he wouldn't have appeared here now.
"Mr. Zhu, the third generation of tanks has not yet chosen a fire control system, right?" Xie Kai asked.
Mr. Zhu didn't know what he meant. He asked, but didn't say anything. He just looked at Xie Kai, waiting for his next sentence.
Others also looked at Xie Kai. Although Zheng Yucheng was not happy with this project asking the country for funding, judging from the current situation, it is the most suitable for anti-stable fire control system.
They can't invest too much R&D money on not having too large market orders.
"If the third-generation tank adopts an anti-stable image fire control system, I think you have to allocate some funds." Xie Kai directly explained his thoughts.
Zhu Yusheng was stunned for a moment, and at first he thought he had heard it wrong.
The richest 404, the most unshort for research funds, actually asked them about the tank research team's funding.
Aren’t they always unwilling to ask for national scientific research funds, thinking that this is a constraint on them?
"Why? You have never been willing to do this?" Mr. Zhu couldn't figure it out, so he naturally had to ask.
"Mr. Wang has always disliked the above. We can't invest in two projects of the same type, right?" Xie Kai said with a smile, "In fact, it's not the case. The main reason is that this thing will definitely not be sold in the future. Since it cannot be sold, either it will not be studied or the country will pay..."
"The cost is too high, our project cannot support it." Mr. Zhu looked at Zheng Yucheng and Wang Guilin, thinking that this was a conspiracy of 404. "The cost of the third generation of tanks is now high."
"Gao? Mr. Zhu, do you think that the J-8ii fire control system is $10 million, which is expensive? Whether it is a third-generation fighter jet or a new generation of warships, the cost of the electronic system will account for one-third or even more of the total cost! Advancedness mainly lies in the improvement brought by the electronic system..." Xie Kai looked at Zhu Yusheng.
He knows better than anyone else, and it’s not that Mr. Zhu doesn’t know the importance of advanced electronic systems.
I wish the boss is considering the cost.
The 617 side should soon sign a prototype vehicle research and development contract with the General Staff Armored Forces Department.
617 and 404 are partners and are also competitive.
"You are used to cheating foreigners, but you don't know the military expenditure of our army..." President Zhu said with a wry smile.
A 359 tank was bought for $2.8 million.
Of course, this is the top-notch.
The price is almost the same as the Soviet T-72.
"Once the upper anti-stable image fire control system is adopted, according to your current quote, the cost of a main battle tank will be estimated to exceed 25 million. Do you think the armored troops can afford this price?" Mr. Zhu asked Xie Kai.
Let’s not talk about the question of advancedness or not.
Can't afford it, study it and place it for people to see?
"The military expenditure will definitely increase with economic growth in the future, right? Besides, without ten years, your three-generation tanks will be established? Ten years later, the technical cost will be reduced long ago." Xie Kai said, "It's okay if the troops can't afford it now, but they will definitely be able to use it in the future."
"If the tanks created now can be used by the troops now, can they keep up with development in ten years? Can they still meet the needs of national defense?" Xie Kai asked Mr. Zhu. "The 88 main battle tank that was set last year can be used by the troops, and there are 6 pairs of heavy-bearing wheels..."
Xie Kai's words made everyone else laugh and look at Mr. Zhu.
It is conceivable that CEO Zhu is so embarrassed.
The Type 88 main battle tank is another main battle tank after the Type 79 main battle tank. It is known as the pioneering work of China's second-generation domestic tank. This thing, many key core components and technologies, were introduced from abroad.
The Type 88 main battle tank is designed based on the improved design of the 80ii main battle tank. The design is designed by general power and the layout is similar to the M1; the tank gun is manufactured by the Hott Fritt Arsenal in the United States, with a barrel life of 200 to 300 rounds; the fire control system uses the submarine hunting target capture/fire control system produced by Hughes Airways in the United States; the digital ballistic computer comes from the Canadian computing equipment company; the power system uses the 882k (1200 horsepower) avcr-1790-1b type 12-cylinder variable compression ratio turbocharged diesel engine of Teledain Mainland; the transmission device is from the Federal German Lenke...
Chapter completed!