Chapter 148: Hundreds of times the gold and jade will return (sixteen)
Shi sorted out his ideas and asked first: "Profits and harms are comparable. If a person wants money, then getting money is profit, and losing money is harm. This is the benefit and harm divided in the same thing. Do you agree with this?"
At this time, the debates of hundreds of schools need to lay the tone and dig up the pit, and the Mohist school attaches great importance to it.
Ren Ke did not answer immediately because he knew the many traps of Mohist debate. After thinking carefully for a long time, he felt that he could not find too many problems, so he had to say, "It's true, I can agree with it."
Shi said again: "In this way, if the world is poor, then it is rich; if the people are few, then it is crowded; if the people are in chaos, then it is governed. Do you think this can be considered as a benefit to the world?"
Ren Ke nodded here, and Shi immediately said, "But not being able to do this will make the world poorer, the people become fewer, and the political affairs become more chaotic. That can be considered to be harmful to the world. Is that true?"
Because he had set a tone principle that was contrary to interests before, he could continue to talk even if he didn't ask, but he needed to let Ren Ke say it in person.
If Ren Ke disagrees, it means he disagrees with what he has agreed to before, so he must admit it even if he does not admit it.
It seemed that these few words were nonsense, but few people such as Bian Fifty-four and Mo Zhai nodded secretly, thinking that this time, they were invincible.
They had sharp eyes. Ren Ke had not yet noticed that he had fallen into the big hole dug by the Mozhe. After considering it, he also called it yes.
Shi said seriously: "Then, let's look at whether the rules for burying and long-lasting mourning can benefit the world. First, look at the fewer people and whether the number of people can increase the number of people."
"Now, we govern the country based on the principle of long-term mourning. When the king dies, he will mourn for three years; when his parents dies, he will mourn for three years, his wife and eldest son dies, and they will mourn for three years. Then, his uncle, uncle, brother, and his concubines dies for one year; when his relatives dies, he will mourn for five months; when his aunt, sister, nephew, and uncle parents dies, he will mourn for a certain number of months. This is the existing rule in the world, and it is also the rule that Moses opposes, and this is not a slander."
Ren Ke was about to say that this is the basis of benevolence and righteousness. What would happen if a person was unfilial? He suddenly thought of a question...
What Mohist just said about benefiting the world and harming the world did not talk about morality, but only used the three standards of increasing wealth, population growth, and political governance to pacify it.
If you want to say that this is the basis of benevolence and righteousness, Ren Ke knew that this was equivalent to admitting defeat on this topic, and instead turning to the new issue of the basis of benevolence and righteousness.
He gritted his teeth and finished listening to the words of Shi, and he had already realized that he had fallen into a trap from the beginning. He couldn't help but be wary, and just waited for Shi to say a wrong sentence and refute.
But it is impossible to refute it now, because Shi just reported the current trend of long-lasting funerals. This is a fact. The facts cannot be refuted, but can only refute the conclusions drawn from the facts.
Shi said, "What are the consequences of such a long-term loss?"
"It will make people lose their faces, dark colors, not smart ears, not bright eyes, and not strong hands and feet, so they cannot do things."
"Some people even said: The upper-class scholars must be mourned and must be supported to stand up and walk with crutches. They live in this way for three years."
"Then, according to these rules of long-term destruction, the people cannot resist the cold in winter and the scorching heat in summer. They may starve to death when they are desolate, and the fields after the destruction are deserted and flee. It can be said that there are countless."
"I don't want to be sucked when it's cold, I don't want to be sucked when it's hot, I don't want to be sucked when it's hungry, I don't want to be sucked when it's fleeing."
"Doing this will inevitably damage the *** between men and women."
"So, pursuing increasing the population by using a long and long-term funeral method is like making people lie on their backs and seeking longevity. The increase in population is not only impossible, but will reduce the population."
"Since the increase in population is beneficial to the world, then the decrease in population is harmful to the world."
"So, the current system and customs are not changing, but actually harming the world. So is the morality of the Mohist being meaningless for benefiting the world?"
Ren Ke never expected that from the perspective of mourning, he would discuss the issue of population increase or decrease from the perspective of the impact of men and women on the other hand... Can such a thing be said to be so straightforward and vulgar?
But he didn't know that the Mozhe has always been straightforward in discussing such things, as the saying goes, "there are many friends who have defeated men and women."
Even more, the reason why the Mohist people directly criticized some major powers for launching wars is: "The long-term recruitment of soldiers to fight will lead to fewer couples, and there is no chance of getting married and having no chance of being apart, which will reduce the population..."
This is neither etiquette nor morality. It speaks directly with specific reasons, which is straightforward and difficult to refute.
Ren Ke never thought that Mozhe would say something **. After thinking for a long time, he felt that if he followed Mozhe's arrangement, he would definitely have to wrap himself in. He could only find a way to kill Shi's sharp energy first.
After thinking for a long time, he deliberately said angrily: "I heard that the Mo people have their own benevolence and righteousness. When talking about the people here, they regard the people as wild beasts and their **s. Isn't this something that barbarians can do? Do you regard people as wild beasts and things? Is this the Mo people's benevolence and righteousness?"
"A farmer planted, he would scatter seeds into the ground, and then said that he could harvest a lot in autumn. Does the Mo treat people from all over the world as the food grown by the farmers?"
"I can no longer talk to you. The Mozhe is insulting people. People are not beasts, so they cannot think about it like this."
Shi snorted and asked back, "If you commit a ban and kill someone, and I say you killed someone, do you think I am insulting you?"
"For example, the kings under today will be conscripted today and then the palace will be summoned and repaired. Wouldn't they treat people as animals? They still need to prepare food and feed them by themselves, but people in the world need to plant themselves and then be conscripted. In the eyes of the king, this is worse than even animals."
"You said that the Messenger talks about **, that is not to regard people as human beings. So are people not ***? If people are *** and ** is the only way to increase the population, isn't it as ridiculous as talking about population growth but not **, as talking about planting but not talking about land and seeds?"
"Besides, I am using the world you understand, because I understand the world you understand, but you cannot understand the world we Mohist understand. Do you need to learn with us what Mohist thinks is the world that benefits the world?"
When Ren Ke didn't know how to answer, Shi asked anxiously: "Don't Wei Hou want Wei's population to increase?"
Ren Ke shook his head and said, "Not."
"So don't the Wei people need their parents' parents' birth?"
“Not it.”
"Then I don't know why you think that Mozhe treats people as beasts and goods."
Ren Ke murmured: "It's just that no one has ever said that."
"No one has ever said that wheat can be grown in winter. So don't you know that the winter wheat in Pei County has been harvested? Is it true that someone must say it to be considered a truth?"
Ren Ke thought for a while, and was silent for a long time, and finally admitted Mozhe's statement in his heart... Although he was so vulgar that he had a certain level, it was true that he could no longer be true.
This is how the population actually increases, but no one has pointed out in a blunt way how to effectively increase the population.
Whether it is a benevolent government or a rehabilitation of the fields, it seems that as long as you do this, the population will naturally increase.
But these ink people shamelessly and boringly reveal the vulgar and shallow truths hidden under the great truth.
Ren Ke had never seen such a debate, not talking about the Holy King, Tang and Wu, or even the Dayu respected by the Mo people, but linked the population, **, and the world with the most basic and real things.
He wiped his sweat secretly and finally realized that the opponents he was going to debate today were completely different from those he had encountered before.
They are unreasonable...but every sentence is reasonable.
It is just the truth that the Mohist believes is the will of heaven, not the way of the saints or the words of Tang and Wu.
What is Tianzhi?
Ren Ke thought for a long time and felt that he understood.
Tianzhi means that people have to be born by their mothers, and if they want to be born, they need to be born first. They need not be hungry, not cold, not hot, and have extra wealth and can get together.
In the end, what needs to be considered is not a general and seems to be vulgar, and the saints will also talk about the increase in population.
Instead, we must consider how to achieve the problem, then analyze the reasons that affect the problem, and then solve those reasons.
This can truly solve the problem.
Chapter completed!